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    Those saying we have no 'real' blacks, could you provide some examples of what you mean? When I dye gear like Militia Tights or the boots Shioban has on display black, I am very satisfied with the result. Anything more black and it would look like somebody has used MS Paint to colour over the shoes; not a look I'm fond of. I've agreed with the shading issue in numerous posts when it comes to other colours or dyed gear losing it's gleam, but this seems like making an issue out of nothing imo. Soot Black looks a realistic black on everything I've tried dying.

    Throw in a random non-leather example (as Shioban provided one):



    Black Hempen Top, black Spring Skirt. Seems black to me?
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    Quote Originally Posted by SeleneVenizelos View Post
    oot Black looks a realistic black on everything I've tried dying.
    Seems black to me?
    These are my same thoughts whenever I see this topic pop up. I must be missing something :x

    I haven't examined soot black under every condition, but I think it could just be that daylight makes it appear as a lighter shade.
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    Quote Originally Posted by WellFooled View Post
    I haven't examined soot black under every condition, but I think it could just be that daylight makes it appear as a lighter shade.
    You know, I was thinking just that and went to play about some more. For the life of me, everything I dye black in sunlight looks black with a subtle sheen from the light hitting it. Another few examples (ignore the fact my hair has changed since the last screenshot, these are taken with a trip to the Aesthetician between the previous pic):

    Leatherworker set minus the body since it's already black by default:


    Militia Tights, a regular example used that dying shades are bad, with some Cloth based gloves:


    Even the full dyed Drachen Armour looks black and retains its metallic sheen:


    I can only surmise that people who think this isn't black don't have much experience with sunlight and its effects on colour...
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    Quote Originally Posted by SeleneVenizelos View Post
    Those saying we have no 'real' blacks, could you provide some examples of what you mean? When I dye gear like Militia Tights or the boots Shioban has on display black, I am very satisfied with the result. Anything more black and it would look like somebody has used MS Paint to colour over the shoes; not a look I'm fond of. I've agreed with the shading issue in numerous posts when it comes to other colours or dyed gear losing it's gleam, but this seems like making an issue out of nothing imo. Soot Black looks a realistic black on everything I've tried dying.

    Throw in a random non-leather example (as Shioban provided one):



    Black Hempen Top, black Spring Skirt. Seems black to me?
    That's a perfect example...of the black dye being faded. There is gear out there that starts off black, and when you dye it it ends up looking like your pic, lighter than it was.
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    How about at least some dyes that better match colors found in existing gear?



    It may be hard to see in this image, but it is noticable in the environment lighting how different the blacks are between the soot black dyed spring skirt and the naturally black yukata top. Both are of a similar material texture. There are no dyes that match the red or blue yukata either, and the snow white dye does not match the yukata white.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SeleneVenizelos View Post
    Those saying we have no 'real' blacks, could you provide some examples of what you mean?
    If you can't see the difference you should consult an oculist ;p





    If SE cant make a true black dye, they should at least allow us to dye every single piece of gear, that way we can fit our glamour better.
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    I'm sure it irritates the crap out of all the people who do conjoined names I see, like "Joeblow Theblack - to find out they're really "Joeblow Thesortablack" or "Joeblow Thereallydarkgray"

    I can deal with it
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