Quote Originally Posted by Valmar View Post
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What I meant was in FFXIV when you Provoke something it places you 1 Aggro Above the highest person on the Mob's threat List, Thus bringing the Mob to you, for a Few Seconds, maybe 2 GCDs and that is the time you have to Take Hate.
Except that the mob doesn't come to you. You provoke off an overzealous bard, great. That bard is at range! One more button mash and your entire provoke is completely wasted. The problem is that you aren't given time to establish threat because it lacks the functionality of taunts in other games.

Each tank job needs their own version of a taunt, and it needs to work. This is a staple tank skill that defines the role. I don't even know why we are still arguing this - it's designed terribly in being a level 22 skill on only one class and barely functional in its current state outside of very, very niche circumstances.