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    Kuwagami Tarynke
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    Red Mage Lv 78
    Quote Originally Posted by randomrope View Post
    I am sorry but you are wrong. You have to actually be on the hate table for provoke to work. For all of you using provoke first after you die you are wasting it. That is why you are confused when you provoke first after death and you are either not on the table or in the middle (because you quickly use something else after it).

    You must get on the enmity table FIRST by using another action. Then use provoke followed by another hate generating action. Nice try Kuwagami.

    Example: Tomahawk/Shield lob (cause you are running back to the mob) > Provoke > Tomahawk/shield lob or start your hate combo.
    weren't we talking about boss fights here ? For trash if you die there's no way to recover in time, all trash will be cleared or the group will wipe (or the healer will choose you over saving a dps/himself..)

    In a boss fight, you get on hate table as soon as you set foot in the battle space, be it entering the room or being revived.

    I don't know what your experience is, but reviving => defiance => provoke works 100% of the time

    (inb4 "you used a buff and gained 70 points" : nope, you gain no enmity with buffs if you are far from the target (further than a tomahawk at least, which is almost always the case)

    EDIT : thinking of it again, you're totally wrong on that. Just randomly provoke a mob in the wild and you'll see. If it doesn't work, they ninja changed it a few days ago.
    The only moment provoke doesn't work is for FATEs and hunt (until you generated some enmity for hunts to prevent abuses)
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    Last edited by Kuwagami; 08-02-2014 at 01:39 PM.