:cool: Test of General Knowledge: Enmity(Rage) not only Tanks

[Oni_Akuma]

Hello everyone:
I wanna know if anyone has the proper insight for Tanking. I know some do and some don't and sometimes people don't understand why or why not the tank can't aggro the other mob fast enough. I will care to explain but first I want to know do the people understand that mechanic and how it affects their groups?


I will edit the line below or make another post about Enmity in this thread:
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[Altonfenri]

I'm.... Not quite sure what you are asking for.... But it almost sounds like you want a broad explanation of how enmity works?

[Oni_Akuma]

I'm.... Not quite sure what you are asking for.... But it almost sounds like you want a broad explanation of how enmity works?

No I wanna know if people do understand it. How it accumulates and etc.

[Elven]

No I wanna know if people do understand it. How it accumulates and etc.

It doesn't matter about accumulation because if you know how the hate table works you can take it off anyone. Bare in mind I'm only accounting for tanks.

[ForteXX]

http://valk.dancing-mad.com/tables/enmity-tables/

There you go.

[SeraviEdalborez]

http://valk.dancing-mad.com/tables/enmity-tables/

There you go.

Only thing with these tables is some modifiers are outdated; ShOath and Defiance are now 3x, Steel Cyclone is 2x I believe?

[Oni_Akuma]

There you go.

Thanks, Now here's what I'm trying to explain.

Here's a Scenario:

Fighting Garuda Extreme:

2 Tanks, 2 Healers and 4 DPS is the layout.

Now what you showed me was what tanks do to build rage. Now there are times where DPS get the Rage. Why is that (I already know the answer)

When Tanks are pulling Chirada and Suprana away, they don't keep tabs of how much Rage they are accumulating:

Chirada:/Enmity

OT: 4305/Enm.
DPS1: 4200/Enm.
DPS2: 3876/Enm.
DPS3: 3768/Enm
DPS4: 2634


The DPS also create and accumulate rage while attacking. So everyone must be at full Sync and know if they are doing too much that they may out aggro the Tank.

Now the MT has Garuda already pulled and is keeping up the aggro, and OT needs to pull the add Suprana now: (Takes too long to pull)

Reason being is the MT accumulated at least 5k rage on Suprana and therefore the OT needs to build enough rage and pass that 5k Mark for him to even pull Suprana.

[Billzey]

Thanks, Now here's what I'm trying to explain.

Here's a Scenario:

Fighting Garuda Extreme:

2 Tanks, 2 Healers and 4 DPS is the layout.

Now what you showed me was what tanks do to build rage. Now there are times where DPS get the Rage. Why is that (I already know the answer)

When Tanks are pulling Chirada and Suprana away, they don't keep tabs of how much Rage they are accumulating:

Chirada:/Enmity

OT: 4305/Enm.
DPS1: 4200/Enm.
DPS2: 3876/Enm.
DPS3: 3768/Enm
DPS4: 2634


The DPS also create and accumulate rage while attacking. So everyone must be at full Sync and know if they are doing too much that they may out aggro the Tank.

Now the MT has Garuda already pulled and is keeping up the aggro, and OT needs to pull the add Suprana now: (Takes too long to pull)

Reason being is the MT accumulated at least 5k rage on Suprana and therefore the OT needs to build enough rage and pass that 5k Mark for him to even pull Suprana.

I think you're the one who doesn't understand how enmity works. Provoke will match the enmity of whoever is highest on the enmity list; thus, provoke > shield lob will always pull the mob off whomever, assuming that the person with highest enmity does not continue accruing enmity.

Furthermore, I think you're using a very odd strategy for garuda extreme. There's really no reason to pull suparna off the MT at any point in the fight. It's also much easier just to leave chirada alive and kill suparna first these days.

[Oni_Akuma]

I think you're the one who doesn't understand how enmity works. Provoke will match the enmity of whoever is highest on the enmity list; thus, provoke > shield lob will always pull the mob off whomever, assuming that the person with highest enmity does not continue accruing enmity.

Furthermore, I think you're using a very odd strategy for garuda extreme. There's really no reason to pull suparna off the MT at any point in the fight. It's also much easier just to leave chirada alive and kill suparna first these days.

Thanks, I main DPS, So the Server is in desperate need to progress so I'm making a tank.

[Malzian]

Thanks, I main DPS, So the Server is in desperate need to progress so I'm making a tank.

All servers need more tanks, it's one of the main dungeon issues with this game.