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  1. #11
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    File2ish's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by InVizO View Post
    The fix is to build a PC.

    ...buying a console does NOT make you immune to the changes in technology.
    You make it sound like everyone can just set aside at the very least $400 very quickly to build a low-mid range modern PC or buy a PS4. Not everyone has an income that would allow that (some are kids/teens, jobless, minimum wage and paying rent/utilities/food/etc). Yeah, they could stop playing the game and set aside the $12-15 per month on this game and buy/build a rig in a couple years with that money saved. But some would rather play on a system that's a bit underpowered for the game than not invest their time into it at all. SE is still supporting the console, until the system is dropped the players using the PS3 expect the game to run as close as feasibly possible to the PS4 and PC. The PS3 is still in their development support, everything needs to work as best as feasibly possible for all players in the game.

    Quote Originally Posted by Ailish_Chibi View Post
    ...I cant hardly reach any of them on ps3 because they die too fast and the maps load so slow.Are the devs aware of this?Are they gonna make some fix or what?
    Quote Originally Posted by Ailish_Chibi View Post
    As long as the ps3 is still in their plans they have to make all the stuff in the game playable for their users
    One must understand that a fix isn't as simple as just whipping up some code and everything becomes fine and dandy. A lot of meticulous tweaking has to be done in order to have it function in the most efficient and optimal way.

    The amount of players in the area sends a lot of data to the system to render them all in the same place, added with the large Hunt mob, plus all the surrounding monsters potentially in the vicinity to the player is a lot to render.

    Due to the miniscule amount of RAM (256 for the CPU and 256 for the GPU), the complexity of the cell processor (and different architecture to the Windows PC/PS4 versions same x86 architecture), SATA HDD port (SATA1, 150MB/s maximum), and the comparatively weak power of the GPU; the PS3 it can't render them all at once as they move to and fro. While it is trying to, it simply cannot keep up when so many things are in an area that need to be rendered.

    Particularly because of the miserable amount of RAM in the PS3 and the way it's been allocated; the system has to load, dump, and reload assets far more and much slower than say the PS4 with it's 8GB of GDDR5 RAM. It also does it at a much slower rate than a modern PC can with 2-16GB of DDR2-3 for the CPU and 512MB-2GB of GDDR3-5 for the GPU. In a nutshell, the PS3 has good hardware from 2006.

    Further adjusting the load priorities could somewhat alleviate this, but it would be like putting a band-aid on a wound several times bigger than it can cover. They could also try to further optimize the engine for the system (not just load priorities), but that would take quite a bit of resources and time from the devs when they're focused on making the content for all systems the game can be played on.

    For everyone
    We know the PS3 is eventually going to be dropped, when is debatable.

    Until it is, the PS3 will be the minimum spec for the game. And minimum spec needs to run. The players expect SE to do their damnedest to keep the game running on it. The system is underpowered for the game, nobody denies that, but all content is available on it and can be done on it. The hindering factors of the hardware can be worked around to a point, and SE has been doing their best to make it work on the system. Players will be playing FFXIV on the PS3 until support is dropped, and SE will be supporting the system until they decide it's time to drop it. Until that time, the devs are working tirelessly to prevent any player from being at a disadvantage in any content due to hardware restrictions. Should be commended for their efforts.

    And I am a PS3 player. I can play on PC (played a bit of 1.0 when I got the CE, which ran at a steady 9FPS), but mine is not powerful enough to play the game well at minimum settings (15-20FPS depending on how many player models, effects, and environmental shadows are being rendered).
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    Last edited by File2ish; 07-26-2014 at 04:42 AM. Reason: Make it more clear to whom I was directing each part, additional stuffs.

  2. #12
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    Quote Originally Posted by BillyBones View Post
    Well about upgrading.. I don't really play PC games and I don't want to buy a new one just for FF14. Same with PS4 - it has no games atm.
    No games Atm, yes.

    but did you sleep through E3?

    Its Worth it to buy a PS4 now.
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  3. #13
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    Leaves me to wonder why SE created a game for a console released back in 2006.

    I feel sorry for PS3 users. I don't think they can "fix" this problem however other than restricting hunts to X amount of people which will make it a leve/duty or whatever. Which ofc isn't intended for this content.
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  4. #14
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    They knew these problems would appear but i havent seen an official response from any dev or community manager or anything at all.I could just upgrade to ps4 but then why just not drop ps3 support and close it?As long as the ps3 is still in their plans they have to make all the stuff in the game playable for their users
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    I don't get why the title says "(yes another thread)" then asks the same questions as though you weren't aware that they had been asked before.

    The sooner they drop ps3 support, the better.
    I played on ps3 during beta and the first few months and the experience was horrible even during large fates.
    I totally understand that people don't wanna spend money upgrading whilst it's available on the ps3, but once it's gone, it's gonna save a lot of problems.
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    I did my first and last hunt last week . shit system
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xaphire View Post
    PS2 is still supported for XI, and I remember doing Dynamis during RoZ on PS2 and it was way worse than hunts/odin/behemoth could ever hope to be.
    This is actually one reason why I'm okay playing XIV on my PS3 -- because I remember playing XI on the PS2 and it was way slower. ^.^;

    The other is that my PC rates about 1500 on the benchmark with the settings turned all the way down.

    I think it's perfectly reasonable to complain that a game you paid actual money for isn't working as intended. And I feel that SE should moderate posts and issue temporary bans when people say "lol u should upgrade," unless they're planning on taking responsibility for selling what everyone seems to think is a broken product. As someone who's used to gaming on a PC with integrated graphics, though, I really don't think that it is, and I think PC gaming rig snobs are just that.
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  8. #18
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    I have PC and PS3 on my account, but I prefer playing on PS3 because I feel the movement and skill use is more efficient, but I'm not going to upgrade to PS4 because SE puts limits on PS3 users. I'm confined to dailies and weekly hunts. I've only done 1 B rank monster and that's when no one is there.

    Loading is so weird just standing in one place and players are appearing. I feel the range of players visible should be more then the ones around me.

    Even in Sycrus I don't load all the Alliances.
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  9. #19
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    One thing is having a slight disadvantage in heavy movement fights like Titan EX due to some PS3 delay issues, and a very different story is entirely excluding a good bunch of the community from doing a certain content.

    I would like to know, how many people in here that are asking the TC to buy a PS4/PC have actually bought their own PS4/PC with THEIR money
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    Last edited by Gallus; 07-26-2014 at 02:20 AM.

  10. #20
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gallus View Post
    One thing is having a slight disadvantage in heavy movement fights like Titan EX due to some PS3 delay issues, and a very different story is entirely excluding a good bunch of the community from doing a certain content.

    I would like to know, how many people in here that are asking the TC to buy a PS4/PC have actually bought their own PS4/PC with THEIR money
    gonna bite here, my pc is entirely my own money, I work, even pay bills, I manage money, I walk to work which is 30 min each way and as a result, dont need a car <----- saves massive amount of money right there.

    Hell even my GPU costs more then a PS4 outright, and guess what, shock horror, you can purchase the parts over time, like I did, I bought maybe 2-3 parts a month, when it came to my GPU got that last, took a few months to complete my system. Why others cant do this, boggles me.

    And also, heres a question for you, so you have a PS3, which is a few hundred bucks, and you need a TV to play that on, which again is a few hundred dollars, why is it that you have these 2, yet complain about ps4 and PC purchases, again PC parts can be built over time, plenty of people do it. If its help you need, there are many websites and forums which can help you and even youtube videos, will say check out linustechtips videos if you need, some handy stuff there.
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    Last edited by raelgun; 07-26-2014 at 02:45 AM.

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