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    Player
    Ephier's Avatar
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    Ephier Samoht
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    Ultros
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    Machinist Lv 70
    (Suiton)Spin(trick)>Shadow(B4b)>Mut(IR)>Spin(Kas)>Gust(Raiton)>AE(Mug)

    () = OGCD

    Huton should be up before pull so your mudra will be up to cast suiton. This opener assumes you have a warrior.
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    JakzChurchill's Avatar
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    Jakz Kumaze
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    Louisoix
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    Pugilist Lv 64
    A few musing since hitting 50.

    > Katon does indeed crit on all mobs when used with kassatsu

    > Putting your mudra's in order of jin - Chi -ten helps a huge amount in remembers the order. ---> Huton --> or <-- Raiton <--- Suiton
    Any that I don't use often are put in spare hotbars of to the side a refreshers if I ever forget.

    > Ninja is kind on controllers because you don't lose auto attacks but has too many abilities to fit into the standard 1.5 hotbars. As they all hold a degree of usefulness.

    > 2 or 3 ninjas in ST make it the fastest thing you'll ever do, that trick attack buff for 15dps is insane.

    > Dancing edge does indeed have no positional requirements so your optimum standing position is to the rear of the target for instant trick attacks.

    > The soldiery weapons look like ass and it might be worth doing the relic question just to glamour.

    > at this point goad is very ineffective outside of a voice chat environment

    > Ninja hits hard... I was already doing 850 DMG SA at 47 and have hit my highest number of a 1400 raiton at i96 with i110 weapon.
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    Ashrak Teriel
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    Thaumaturge Lv 60
    Are the Hitcaps for Final Coil already known? I'm thinking about what poetry-gear i need to buy.
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    Edward Volcdegen
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    Adamantoise
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    Marauder Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Ashrak View Post
    Are the Hitcaps for Final Coil already known? I'm thinking about what poetry-gear i need to buy.
    Probably will be kept tight lipped until someone downs T13.
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    Commodore Butcherboy
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    Cactuar
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    Pugilist Lv 60
    That is awesome about TA. So pretty much suiton+ TA always and TA from the rear.
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    Velhart Aurion
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    Hyperion
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    Machinist Lv 80
    So has anyone tested stat priorities on NIN yet between Determination ~ Crit ~ Skill Speed?
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    Leonus's Avatar
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    Kenrir Amnis
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    Sargatanas
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    Gunbreaker Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Velhart View Post
    So has anyone tested stat priorities on NIN yet between Determination ~ Crit ~ Skill Speed?
    Based on low tp consumption I'd say skill speed will help nins a lot in increasing their damage and tying the small gaps between their dots/debuffs together.

    Determination is the other one that Will be pretty important Imo. Of course it's going to depend on what's BiS and how much the skill speed from the poetic all again affects nin.
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    Last edited by Leonus; 11-02-2014 at 05:56 AM.

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    Seravi Edalborez
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    Hyperion
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    Gladiator Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Leonus View Post
    Based on low tp consumption I'd say skill speed will help nins a lot in increasing their damage and tying the small gaps between their dots/debuffs together.

    Determination is the other one that Will be pretty important Imo.
    Their TP consumption and speed is the exact same as MNK (slightly worse since they have to do the 60TP starter slightly more often) so I don't see how that's an argument supporting skillspeed.
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    Kenrir Amnis
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    Sargatanas
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    Quote Originally Posted by SeraviEdalborez View Post
    Their TP consumption and speed is the exact same as MNK (slightly worse since they have to do the 60TP starter slightly more often) so I don't see how that's an argument supporting skillspeed.
    Not exactly the same due to mudra casts so it just feels like it consumes tp slower to me.
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    Last edited by Leonus; 11-02-2014 at 07:28 AM.

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    Velhart Aurion
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    Machinist Lv 80
    I keep hearing people argue between Crit and Det, but not seeing any actual data off any of them.
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