Ninja: Walk in shadow.

[MrCookTM]

@Dynza

I agree with alot of what you just wrote, but this one got me confused:

The so-called imbalance that others argue apply only to accessories which are rare in most end-game dungeons (only two or three dungeons drop accessories)

Every endgame dungeon drops accessories of their respective ilvl, means the current expert dungeons drop i80 accs, 'old' expert dungeons (mythflox etc.) drop i70 accs, the i60 dungeons drop i60 accs... That being said, 5 out of 6 ex primals drop accs, every coil turn drops accs, ultima hm drops accs...

tl;dr

Almost all lvl50 (endgame-) content drops accs, with the only real exceptions being hm primals, levi ex and CT/ST... No idea what you mean with your statement.

[Cynric]

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Woah woah. First off, you're right on a lot of stuff, but wrong on some other stuff. First off yes competition is purely accessories depending on group composition, EXCEPT in the case of Bard pre Ninja being dex. Before unless you're taking two bards for some reason they wont be competing for anything with anyone aside from sub lots. Next there is zero concrete evidence to whether Ninja does or does not have Blood for Blood, internal release, etc. Because in the teaser no Cross class skills were shown period. Being LNC/PGL Cross class alone shows they probably do get those buffs.

So in short, Yeah you're right about the competing for loot, it's all dependent on group composition, but you're wrong about the Ninja info relating to OGCD buffs.

[Vermilion]

Post Fan Festival Interview with Yoshi-P and GamerEscape:

Gamer Escape: It was announced that Ninja would be using monk gear, but it was also said that it would be using dexterity as a primary stat. Isn’t the main stat on monk gear strength? How do you see this working?

Y: (After checking) Up to level 50, if you happen to have it, you are able to equip the fighter gear. Up to level 50 it is not job specific gear, so as long as you have fighter gear you will be OK, since they have both dexterity and strength. Beyond level 50, for example, the Fuma set from the Crystal Tower, and on that the dexterity attribute is already attached, so you be be able to use that. From 2.4 there will be new specific level 50+ gear that has the dexterity attribute attached so you won’t be conflicting with the Monk’s gear. Each will have their own specific sets of gear.

Looks like some clarification/confirmation, DEX will be added to existing Monk gear. Gear from 2.4 onward, ninja will have their own set.

[Leonus]

TY for that clarification.

[Gh0st_Pr0digy]

so ninja will be using monk left side till they get their specific gear and bard right side?

[kiraan]

so ninja will be using monk left side till they get their specific gear and bard right side?

yes, seems like it thanks to the clarification done by gamerescape

[Dynza]

@Dynza

I agree with alot of what you just wrote, but this one got me confused:



Every endgame dungeon drops accessories of their respective ilvl, means the current expert dungeons drop i80 accs, 'old' expert dungeons (mythflox etc.) drop i70 accs, the i60 dungeons drop i60 accs... That being said, 5 out of 6 ex primals drop accs, every coil turn drops accs, ultima hm drops accs...

tl;dr

Almost all lvl50 (endgame-) content drops accs, with the only real exceptions being hm primals, levi ex and CT/ST... No idea what you mean with your statement.

I was specifically talking about 8-mans. Coil, Ultima, Ramuh. And in hindsight, I was probably being far too general, sorry.

Woah woah. First off, you're right on a lot of stuff, but wrong on some other stuff. First off yes competition is purely accessories depending on group composition, EXCEPT in the case of Bard pre Ninja being dex. Before unless you're taking two bards for some reason they wont be competing for anything with anyone aside from sub lots. Next there is zero concrete evidence to whether Ninja does or does not have Blood for Blood, internal release, etc. Because in the teaser no Cross class skills were shown period. Being LNC/PGL Cross class alone shows they probably do get those buffs.

So in short, Yeah you're right about the competing for loot, it's all dependent on group composition, but you're wrong about the Ninja info relating to OGCD buffs.

The argument carries a lot more weight if you argued using tanks or healers in your example. You don't really need a bard in party (they help a ton, though), but you will need a tank. Anyway, done talking about it.

Also, I wasn't talking about ninja cross-class abilities...


I should have an updated opening post this weekend (maybe, hopefully). I'm curious, though, do you guys want a class/job picture for appearances? If so, which one? Please keep it related to FFXIV. If anyone can get a clean shot of the Coil gear I could post it.

[Cynric]

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I was referring to your saying of clickable buffs. Maybe I misunderstood what you meant?
I'll get the pic for you just give me a minute.

[Final Coil Gear]


[Tomestone of Poetics Gear]

[Velhart]

Abilities are up. Be nice if they gave cool down times.

[Sigmakan]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets...it?usp=sharing

Link to the spreadsheet I put together a few months ago. I added in the names for moves (I think I have them meshed up well). Should at least give you an idea of cooldown times.

Its not very cleaned up, so there may be some speculation garbage in there still.