Ninja: Walk in shadow.

[JakzChurchill]

Monk skills give the illusion that they hit hard. Aesthetics.

You sure about that? Cause they don't to me. And here in lies the point i'm getting at, it becomes entirely perception based.

People see things differently, there is no fact based logic to what is precision and what is strength, there is no standard to base it around. But what is a melee weapon and what is a ranged weapon is a logical fact you can use as a base.

And to melflomil, how would mudras be ranged? at the very least they are magical. Although if were to pull from a mixture of FFXIV lore and Naruto Lore (very loose area to pull from but the class was designed from this series so bear with me.) we find that Mudras or Ninjitsu come from chakra or spiritual and internal energy (Naruto). Translate this to FFXIV, monks are capable of manipulating FFXIV's version of Chakra to use with abilities like Second Wind, Internal Release, Mantra etc. Which would mean we can assume any chakra based abilities don't rely on magic power but on a characters main stat.

Although a mix of STR/DEX and INT would be interesting with Mudras becoming your main form of DPS , it would be difficult to implement until the expansion I feel.

[Exstal]

You sure about that? Cause they don't to me. And here in lies the point i'm getting at, it becomes entirely perception based.

I am sure. Only a few of the skills seem precision driven; One Ilm Punch, Touch of Death, and Demolish. All the others give the impression they should knock a hole through a bolder. However, the numbers don't really match.

Personally, I don't want NIN to be DEX. I think that'd be very annoying, but if it does happen there better be a good reason why they are using what is supposed to be the stat for Ranged based classes on a melee class.

[Jaykos]

I think thats how they will go. DEX is for "Precision attacks" and STR is for "strong attack" or w/e

LOL nope. STR is for melee attacks and DEX in for ranged attacks.

Hard concept to grasp I know that's why we are 17 pages long...

[Leonus]

I'm kind of hoping they get their own gear for the most part so that no one can have a maxed out ninja right after release.

Will end up dwindling the number of people who want to play it if they can't have it, for the most part, complete content ready.

[Exstal]

I'm kind of hoping they get their own gear for the most part so that no one can have a maxed out ninja right after release.

Will end up dwindling the number of people who want to play it if they can't have it, for the most part, complete content ready.

Except Second Coil will be unlocked and I bet you people would very easily grind full gear set in 1~3 days.

[Leonus]

Is it confirmed that the next turn is coming in 2.4? I missed that if it has been.

[Viridiana]

SE has a simple, easy to understand stats.

Easy to understand if you disregard what the game itself says about the stats, sure.

Is it confirmed that the next turn is coming in 2.4? I missed that if it has been.

They stated a long time ago that they're alternating Coil patches with CT patches. Last patch was a CT patch, so. . .

[Dano]

Is it confirmed that the next turn is coming in 2.4? I missed that if it has been.

yes /10char

[Ejell]

... I don't want to quote myself so...

The game is not made to have ranged attacks based on DEX and melee ones on STR, but with MNK/DRG/WAR/PLD using STR and BRD using DEX (btw i din't kow which stat is used with casters auto attacks)

As said previously, the war's tomahawk used to be DEX based, but the dev's changed it ^^

If the nin goes DEX, only the description text will change from "ranged" to "precision" or something.
This decision will be based on the balance of the game, not on the "lore" or "roleplay" inducted.

[melflomil]

This is what I think. Dex will be the main stat for Ninjas, it will only effect Mudras and ranged attacks (from the videos Mudras look to be all ranged attacks).

All melee attack will be Strength based. ( My bard has about 220 strength maybe lower i have to check but im at work)
Since Ninja's will have lower strength the mudras will have a really high potency to make up for some DPS
The Ninja gear left side only will have both strength and Dex Stats. Strength will cap out at about 65% max strength for the current iLvl
They can loot on all Bard accessories.

So lets say a Ninja with a ilvl of 110 and ilvl 115 weapon can push about about 320 with only melee attacks for Turn 8. If he use Mudras he can push about 470. So Mudras will count for about 25% total dps for a Ninja