Yo Yosh, Can you please disable the ability to teleport?

[Sapphic]

For example:
Proposal: I don't like X convenience (time saving feature: teleports/FATE grinding/duty finder), because it diminishes my sense of immersion, enjoyment, skips content, etc
Argument: Ha! I love that convenience, if you don't like it, just don't use it, nobody is forcing you to use it, so why is it a problem/needs to change

Which is an accurate argument. You are comparing two totally different things and trying to use them as a counter-argument. I don't like frontlines, never did. Does that mean they should remove them? No, I don't like it so I ignored it, others who enjoyed it partook of that specific content. Same applies to teleports. No-one is forcing anyone to use them, the option is there to use or not to use, same as every other thing in game.

Erbear is a troll trying to take the identity of another troll, doesn't even play the game just copies and slightly rewords other peoples complaint posts. To be honest, no active account should block you from posting in the forums.

[ErBear]

Which is an accurate argument. You are comparing two totally different things and trying to use them as a counter-argument. I don't like frontlines, never did. Does that mean they should remove them? No, I don't like it so I ignored it, others who enjoyed it partook of that specific content. Same applies to teleports. No-one is forcing anyone to use them, the option is there to use or not to use, same as every other thing in game.

I don't see it as a constructive argument. Because I could go say to you guys, go play vindictus if you don't want a vast open world. It does nothing but degrade the thread.

So now, please tell me why it's such a terrible thing to have some limitations on how we travel?

Also I'll be in vegas when the event hits. HIT ME UP YOS!

[Sapphic]

I don't see it as a constructive argument. Because I could go say to you guys, go play vindictus if you don't want a vast open world. It does nothing.

You want a vast open world with no teleports, go play something with a vast open world and no teleports, well wont be hard as you admit you don't even play FFXIV, so why you on the forums wanting something removed from a game you don't even play? The world doesn't revolve around you, whoever you think you are, you aren't.

I'm playing FFXIV because it has what I want, I don't play vindictus because I don't want to play vindictus. FFXIV has an open world fyi, just because you can teleport around doesn't make the world disapear, it's still there you know.

Stupid arguments are stupid. Also fyi, what was a great way of making gil in FFXI because everyone wanted the convenience? Charging for teleports.

[Gramul]

If I wanted to play an Adventure Game, it surely would not be an MMO, but an ACTUAL 2D point-and-click adventure like Monkey Island, or Deponia. Y'know, like the old times.

Stop trying to make the world 'more dangerous' in your opinions. Once it happens you'll all start to hate it anyway. Just look at Hunts, same thing happened there. Don't give people exactly what they want, Square, please.

Ironic you should bring that up. Because easy teleports are a big reason why hunts are having a problem.

[Dwill]

Thinking that leveling is a "tremendous" part of the game is ludicrous.

You missed the point. Try again.

If that example is too extreme for your tastes how about less ludicrous example, how about if they added a convenience that allowed me to level up other jobs while playing another job at an increased rate (to say half my current level). A lot of players would love the convenience, but some would argue that, hey that's too cheap, starter zones would be empty, you're skipping half the world. In that sense we players and developers would come to a consensus that this convenience affects the game's exp gain balance too much. Players who like the convenience can't simply use the flawed argument, that if you can choose to use it or not, the convenience should be left in the game for them.

See, that's an example that's not exaggerated. Even then, you can't really compare the two of them. One is convenience, the other is content balance.

I don't see it as a constructive argument. Because I could go say to you guys, go play vindictus if you don't want a vast open world. It does nothing but degrade the thread.

So now, please tell me why it's such a terrible thing to have some limitations on how we travel?

Also I'll be in vegas when the event hits. HIT ME UP YOS!

It was explained plenty of time why it's a terrible thing. You're just reading this thread with your eyes closed then proceed to say that all the arguments against your ideas aren't good just because.

[Gilthas]

I find it funny that several people in this thread that want teleports removed don't even play the game...

People mention how FFXI was, but for me, after having a level 75 WAR, finally getting my WHM to teleport levels and BLM to Warp level brought so much more freedom to me. Outpost warps, teleport to sky, Whitegate/Jeuno warps, all of these I constantly used.

If you don't want to use teleports in FFXIV, then don't. I only really use Return to get back to Limsa and my free teleport to Revenant's Toll. I get to everywhere else by airship/ship and my mount. I don't even use the teleports inside the cities.

People are just being selfish here.

[Dwill]

I find it funny that several people in this thread that want teleports removed don't even play the game...

People mention how FFXI was, but for me, after having a level 75 WAR, finally getting my WHM to teleport levels and BLM to Warp level brought so much more freedom to me. Outpost warps, teleport to sky, Whitegate/Jeuno warps, all of these I constantly used.

If you don't want to use teleports in FFXIV, then don't. I only really use Return to get back to Limsa and my free teleport to Revenant's Toll. I get to everywhere else by airship/ship and my mount. I don't even use the teleports inside the cities.

People are just being selfish here.

Also the amount of people begging for Warp II and Teleports shelling out decent chunk of change for it.

[ErBear]

I find it funny that several people in this thread that want teleports removed don't even play the game...

People mention how FFXI was, but for me, after having a level 75 WAR, finally getting my WHM to teleport levels and BLM to Warp level brought so much more freedom to me. Outpost warps, teleport to sky, Whitegate/Jeuno warps, all of these I constantly used.

If you don't want to use teleports in FFXIV, then don't. I only really use Return to get back to Limsa and my free teleport to Revenant's Toll. I get to everywhere else by airship/ship and my mount. I don't even use the teleports inside the cities.

People are just being selfish here.

Well, I might eventually come back when there is an expansion, I like to know how the game is turning up. I've invested a lot of time and effort into the game.

As I said airships and ships are teleports as well. Though in FFXI it took a good year, for me at least to be even close to level 75 and by that time yeah you should have some ease of travel.

Level 1-20 you ran

Level 21-50(whenever you got the airship pass) you choco'd everywhere and if lucky got a free teleport here and there.

level 50-75 YOu had some spare money to teleport warp and take advantage of other means of fast travel.

It was a build up that you worked for, also something to look forward to as well. I was ecstatic when I got my chocobo not only did it ease my traveling woes from mobs and time but I finally got a buddy.

here everything is handed to you within the first 15 levels of playing. Which really only takes a few hours to get when you first start up. You didn't earn anything. You didn't work for anything. Hell, level 50 maybe takes a good week of playing to reach.

The thing I'm trying to get at and which you people don't see is that the game needs to slow down a bit. You will be expecting this and that. Heck, I even saw a post crying because they missed the lightning event. SO WHAT, people shouldn't be able to get everything. That's what makes items special in FFXI, people couldn't just get everything, that's why when you saw a relic in FFXI, you were like "that guy is boss". At least I was like that. Here it's like oh... another relic.... it's a common item.

That is the type of community this game breeds. People will expect everything given to them with little or no work involved. Yeah sometimes that work is a little boring or dull but the average player shouldn't be able to obtain the best weapon or gear in a few months of time... I mean, why even go for the best gear, just wait till the next patch erases that work you just did and start anew with that gear.

[Ramzal]

You know, I usually find that when it comes to optional choices you can choose to not utilize a function should you not like it, and not expect things to change for others simply because you don't like it. Just typing out loud is all.

[A_Magical_Unicorn_Rider]

Really makes me think OP is using this to vent a personal problem like "I want a car but I can't afford it, so if I can't afford it, then you don't get to have a car either (even though you probably worked to actually earn said car)."

I don't know whether to lul or ¬_¬