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    Boswen_McBastok's Avatar
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    Boswen Mcbastok
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    Louisoix
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    Paladin Lv 80
    Thanks for the great information, all. 'Preciate you guys pointing me in the right direction. Shame we're so pigeonholed in this game, but it is what it is. I still really like FFXIV and think I'll still be enjoying it for a long time. That said, however, I may hold off on MRD for a while until well after I hit PLD 50, get some great gear, and then at some point feel like playing a tank job again. (First I need to get CNJ to at least 34 [from 23] for Stoneskin on PLD, and then maybe work on MNK [32] or another true-DPS role...)
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    ~Boswen McBastok (XIV) of Louisoix / Fyaze Lemagerogue (XIV) of Excalibur / Boswen (XI) of Ragnarok


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    Marxam's Avatar
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    Blackiron Tarkus
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    Leviathan
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    Marauder Lv 90
    I think the term you want to use is "Off-tank" meaning that you won't be taking the hard hits of the boss and will only be there as an assurance for if something goes wrong. I think all "Off-tanks" should spec out in as much str gear as you can get since you won't be taking hits and every little bit helps in some fights. My static is on T9, working on dive bombs, and I'm only there as an pure str off-tank for the ghosts n golems phase. Other than that I'm just dealing damage off defiance. I'm doing around 250-260 so decent damage but no where near what true dps should be doing unless they're dead most of the time lol.

    The only thing I can see why people keep talking about WAR being dps is because they see IB crits of 1k+ (or 1.4k in my current gear) and think "damn that's a lot of damage for a tank! I think he can dps".
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    Adrian Silverthorn
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    Ultros
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    Gladiator Lv 50
    No need to duck. If you form a 4/8 man party you can do whatever you want. If you use the DF the answer is no. The only thing you can sign up for is Tank and you will be expected to Tank.
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    Player aerolol's Avatar
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    Baron Eduardo
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    Goblin
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    Marauder Lv 70
    I have out DPS'd Bards, Black Mages and even Monks on Second Coil playing as Warrior.

    Granted some of them might have been quite crappy DPS, but it's not hard to out-DPS a Bard while main tanking.
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    Trivarium Ori
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    Ragnarok
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    Gladiator Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by aerolol View Post
    I have out DPS'd Bards, Black Mages and even Monks on Second Coil playing as Warrior.

    Granted some of them might have been quite crappy DPS, but it's not hard to out-DPS a Bard while main tanking.
    Good bards can hit 330+ you can't begin to say through the course of a fight you can do that as main tank. I would like to see some proof of you doing over 300 sustained on warrior
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    Kakita Ucalibur
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    Siren
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    Paladin Lv 86
    Quote Originally Posted by TrivariumOri View Post
    Good bards can hit 330+ you can't begin to say through the course of a fight you can do that as main tank. I would like to see some proof of you doing over 300 sustained on warrior
    He may not be lying. A Warrior has roughly 356.80 potency in Defiance if using a perfect rotation (Paladin has a 296.26 potency in Shield Oath using a perfect rotation) and few reasons to interrupt his rotation. If he is using only Str Accessories and has 30 Str he could possibly exceed a Bard's dps.

    A Paladin in theory can hit 429 to 477 potency dps in Sword Oath while OTing a Warrior MT.
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    Last edited by Ultimatecalibur; 07-26-2014 at 03:59 AM.

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    Silvach Dakwhil
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    Zodiark
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    Gladiator Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by aerolol View Post
    I have out DPS'd Bards, Black Mages and even Monks on Second Coil playing as Warrior.

    Granted some of them might have been quite crappy DPS, but it's not hard to out-DPS a Bard while main tanking.
    People like this makes my day. Dream on.
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    Kizuna Astin
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    Pugilist Lv 50
    BRD in my group do 300+ Damage in SCoB, I would like to see WAR does that while MTing ... if you are please post some SS
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    Last edited by Remn; 07-26-2014 at 02:07 AM.

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    whiskeybravo's Avatar
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    Whiskey Bravo
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    Leviathan
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    Warrior Lv 100
    He said they were probably crappy DPS.. I've ran t6 a few times with people who couldn't hit 200.. Hell one SMN we had did a whopping 99 DPS (excl garuda, which wasn't much anyways).. Not hard to beat that tanking >.>
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    Kizuna Astin
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    he also said,
    "Granted some of them might have been quite crappy DPS, but it's not hard to out-DPS a Bard while main tanking." ;S
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