Stop Raising Item Level and build foundation with Horizontal Progression first

[Fendred]

While your not wrong. The reason is because WoW has systematically destroyed MMOs for the past 10 years or so by pandering to the lowest common denominator.

Also WoW's "success" can more be attributed to its successful marketing and being the "gateway" MMO (like gateway drug) and releasing rigt when parents started trusting the internet enough to let their kids use their credit cards to play an online game.

Their retention rate is terrible on all levels of play but everyone who plays MMOs has likely tried it at least once. Not a bad money making model but it is quickly ruining the genre. The same way graphical advancements in general have hurt console games more than they have helped (remember when console games took 50+ hours to finish? Now most games are more like 10)

It is already happening here. There are very few people I used to raid with logging on anymore. The continued success of the game comes from the release of the ps4 version. The developers are awesome guys and gals who do listen to feedback (the constructive stuff and not the rants, which I'm sometimes guilty of), but they probably wouldn't have added atma and hunts if the usual formula was accomplishing the goal to retain end game players.