Tanks keep leaving the dungeon

[Puwarh]

When I queue for a dungeon many times till now I still have the problem with tank leaving the moment the duty start. And It's ALWAYS THE TANK, it never happen to Healers or DPSes.

Guys we have the same 24 hr in a day, you know? Isn't it a cheating? As DPS I have to wait 15-30 mins to get into one random or not, as Healer sometimes instance sometime more than 10 min. May be you are gonna stuck in a super low level that make you bored in random but it's random you choose to run in DF isn't it? Sometime I do a random and end up on Titan that I super hate but I at least still try to complete it.

I think time penalty is not enough for tank that take their leave like that may be some large amount of Tomb of solitary lost or force their gear to drop may help?

If you don't want random just DON'T queue as random, even if the number of tank drop to 0 that's ok by me and that mean I will just have to ask some tank in my FC to join before it start. If you do queue for random, than please at least try what you started, leaving after a few wipe is bad, but leave with out trying is the worst.

I do know some Healers and DPSes do leave the same manor of some tank (never met one before) and they should be punish in the same way. but as it goes leaving DPSes does not pose as many problem as tanks and healers.

[PetiteMalFleur]

I dropped a dungeon yesterday immediately after queuing in because the dragoon was in full spiritbonding gear with intelligence jewelry. There are a lot of reasons people drop. Should we take the time to evaluate every single one? 30 minute penalty is more time than most any dungeon takes to complete, even with new players.

They recently increased the myth reward for completing dungeons with new people. I think it will help a lot.

[Doge]

Funny i dropped a expert roulette a week or so ago for the same reason. A drg with crafting/int/gathering gear.

[Sapphic]

Funny i dropped a expert roulette a week or so ago for the same reason. A drg with crafting/int/gathering gear.

Should have got the rest of the party to ask the DRG to switch to class stat gear, if they failed to comply (aka adhere to the partys wish) you then have every right to votekick them from the party and wait 2 minutes for a replacement. If the DRG gets kicked from enough parties wearing said gear with not wanting to switch they may start to learn that it is not such a good idea overall XD

If I SB in dungeons as MNK I only SB accs which are lvl 48/49 str accesories. Anything else (left side SBiing or crafting/gathering) I do with world mobs or in FATEs in north than in a party.

[Worm]

I dropped a dungeon yesterday immediately after queuing in because the dragoon was in full spiritbonding gear with intelligence jewelry. There are a lot of reasons people drop. Should we take the time to evaluate every single one? 30 minute penalty is more time than most any dungeon takes to complete, even with new players.

They recently increased the myth reward for completing dungeons with new people. I think it will help a lot.

What if he was about to switch out of it? I gotta say it amazes me how passive you people are in game while being snarky and snappy on the forums. Why not just ask him to put on proper gear or ask him if he really intends to go through the whole dungeon like that.

It's such a delusional way of thinking "well even the 30 minute timer + the obvious 15 minute awesome speed run I'll get next roulette is about how long that group would have taken me, so no time lost". Honestly I'm kind of glad I didn't decide to tank in this game just so I'm not associated with this behavior.

[Sapphic]

What if he was about to switch out of it? I gotta say it amazes me how passive you people are in game while being snarky and snappy on the forums. Why not just ask him to put on proper gear or ask him if he really intends to go through the whole dungeon like that.

They could have easily been SBiing in FATEs and finished FATE with 10 seconds on the DF joiner. clicked join with the intention of switching in the dungeon. Asksaid person to switch to gear suitable for their job, if they do, alls good. If they refuse knowing it would cause issues for the run. well, vote kick.

[Elwood011]

I dropped a dungeon yesterday immediately after queuing in because the dragoon was in full spiritbonding gear with intelligence jewelry. There are a lot of reasons people drop. Should we take the time to evaluate every single one?

Really, who joins a dungeon wearing SB gear? Seriously. They should know that you join a dungeon wearing your regular gear and then switch to your crafting gear once the tank starts pulling mobs. This isn't rocket science, people!

Kidding aside, after 2 nights of Titan HM in roulette and spending 40 minutes each just to fail, I vowed I would drop and eat the penalty the instant I saw him come up again. I imagine anyone can relate to that. However I broke my vow and decided to give each run at least 1 attempt, and the next 2 times were one-shot clears. I can understand why someone would drop out instantly because of bad past experiences, the past does not dictate the future: they should at least give it a shot.

[Aika_Nakamura]

30 minute penalty is more time than most any dungeon takes to complete, even with new players.

You're crazy. I've spent over an hour on some dungeons with new people, quite frequently.

Anyways, people normally have a reason to drop. If they don't like the dungeon, so be it, because you probably wouldn't want them playing through it anyways.

[LetBloodline]

You're crazy. I've spent over an hour on some dungeons with new people, quite frequently.

Anyways, people normally have a reason to drop. If they don't like the dungeon, so be it, because you probably wouldn't want them playing through it anyways.

I did many dungeons as dps and as tank but never got to 1h since the time of first temple of quarn or the first run at amdapoor keep

If you run now many 1h+ dungeon maybe... it your fault?

Plus i'd rater go on with a tank that play poorly cuz he's annoyed (who cares, a decent healer will keep him up anyways and i shot things down quickly) then have lost the 40+ minutes of queue for copperbell hard for that shitty book WASTED cuz the tank quitted, and if he do it he must be punished equally to the problem he make for the other 3 players

This is multiplayer. You are not alone. You want to whine about your rights of play the way you want? Go single players games. Where other ppl are concerned your freedom end when start other's freedom. Rulette are ment to let ppl get past of annoying dungeons no one queue anymore. They are not there as free daily gift for egoistical players. You help other ppl with those dungeons? You get the bonus. You are liquid s*it that want all gains and no pain? You should get punished enough so you don't do it. And if you are one of those s*it that quit copperbell saing "you better off without me you s*it?" YES, we are better off without tank like that queuing

[Yoninxi]

If i don't want a dungeon, i'm not gonna waste my time doing it. I leveled dps first, saw how crap the DF times were on the way to 50, then leveled tank and healer. Never looking back. Blame SE for boring dungeons like Toto-Rak and Fail Vigil. 30 Minute penalty is better than dragging through toto for 45 minutes