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    PVP ranks and changing Grand Companies

    Hi everyone,

    I wanted to make a suggestion; can we keep our PVP ranks when we switch between different Grand Companies?

    I don't see the point/incentive to reset our PVP ranks, as they are not easily gained, and it prevents anyone (who are high in rank) from wanting to join my friends or FC.



    side Q: And another questions if I gain rank 40 in one GC, switch GC to play with a friend and am now rank 1, am I not able to equip the gear anymore?

    ps. did a search and couldn't find this mentioned, and don't think it was asked in the latest QA.
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    As much as I would like that to happen, it isn't. Just take a look at the class PvP achievements and you'll see each of the GC achievements for leveling up with them.

    As to the gear, you'll be locked from it until you meet the required level stated on it.
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    Cirra Maru
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    OP you just want to change GC with no repercussions. That's why it is made the way it is. Company loyalty...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chiramu View Post
    OP you just want to change GC with no repercussions. That's why it is made the way it is. Company loyalty...
    They should apply the Rule of Fun to this feature.

    Is it fun to be locked out of your PvP Level just because you want to play with a friend in another company? No? Then it shouldn't be.

    This is a game. Games should be fun. There should never be anything in a game that is not fun in some way. This is not fun. It should not be in the game.

    There are other costs to changing GCs that don't cripple gameplay for a time. This cost doesn't need to be there to help stop players from changing GCs on a whim.

    I remember hearing something about them maybe eventually adding GC-specific PvP abilities, so I can see it for that, but, even then, it's still not fun, so it shouldn't be.
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    Last edited by Vandril; 07-25-2014 at 02:41 PM.

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    GC loyalty didn't mean we'd be kept from playing with friends until this patch. Most of my FC can group together for frontlines now, but it cost half a million gill and hundreds of pvp levels.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vandril View Post
    Rule of Fun.
    Fun and Friendship, this is pretty common argument from mordern days gamers. Lore is not important in front of Fun and Freindship. System is not important in front of Fun and Friendship. Nothing is important in front of fun and friendship.... vice versa and goes on........

    Let's take WoW for example, my friend plays Human for the Alliance, but I myself is a Blood Elf for the Horde. In the name of Fun and Friendship, why the hell we cant not play together? Why? This is a game. Games should be fun. There should never be anything in a game that is not fun in some way. This is not fun. It should not be in the game.

    If you are weighting Friendship and Fun so much, you need another important element: the sacrfice. You guys do not want to sacrfice for each other. This comes back to one intersting issue, are you guys really friends? I would do anything for a friend, but that is just me.
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    I would like to see a one time only free change. You keep your level and rank when you switch. One and done. That would allow FCs, friends, etc, to all be able to play together.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Divinemight View Post
    -snip-
    Lore can be slightly altered in minimal ways to make it work with less unfun systems. And of course the system is not more important than fun, since the system exists for the sake of fun. This is a game. It's entire purpose is to be entertaining. No one can truly argue against this fact.

    And don't you even try to pull the whole "do it for your friends" business. That's entirely beside the point. The mechanic in the game is not fun. In fact, it is explicitly unfun. The "sacrifice" you're mentioning is entirely arbitrary and unnecessary. It should not exist in its current form. Make it fun, or at least not unfun, or scrap it. No one likes being forced to reset progression for no reason other than "because it's designed that way".

    Also note that the Rule of Fun, as I call it, is not just some sort of recent gamer's fad. It's actually a game design concept that's been sweeping the video game industry since the industry came to be.
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    Am I really reading posts of people trying to make a argument that Lore is somehow more important then Family and Community. [/sigh]
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    While some people might be willing to switch GC to play with friends, I am sure that most people would just try and jump on the winning bandwagon.

    So, no.
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