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    Limit the amount of healers in a party in frontlines

    Title says it all, its ridiculous, how hard it can be to remove 3, let alone 4 healers from sitting on base, short of mage lb 2 (which healers are good at dodging if they are on the same page thanks to esuna) it can prove pretty hard to remove them. with 3 back to back to back 4 digit criticals.

    For example, we managed to clean up the base of the dps, however we couldnt kill any of the healers, they literally (4 of them) just stood on the cap point with 12 people beating on them. I totaled 180k damage that fight, and not once were the healer cleared of manors ><. All they have to do is simply medica 2 each other for an obnoxious stacking regen (4 digit regen) and if one gets super low? the one scholar in the group simply blows their lustrates. its silly.

    We had the base but never could we kill the healers, they eventually took it back.
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    Player Divinemight's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xisin View Post
    Title says it all, its ridiculous.
    It is pros and cons. Why did you think they limited the party formation in Wolf's Den at first place? What was the reaction from players? If they put in the party formation restriction again, there will be just another wave of QQing. What is your suggestion?
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    Evangela Monterossa
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    healing is overpowered in Frontlines. they heal 2000+ HP (regen & medica II not included) in 2 seconds while DDs have to do hard works to deal 2000 damages.
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    Player Divinemight's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Evangela View Post
    healing is overpowered in Frontlines. they heal 2000+ HP (regen & medica II not included) in 2 seconds while DDs have to do hard works to deal 2000 damages.
    We all aware of that. This issue is:

    How do you adress this issue without hurting the que time?
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    Yahiko Rioreusu
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    Quote Originally Posted by Divinemight View Post
    We all aware of that. This issue is:

    How do you address this issue without hurting the que time?
    I'd say don't let there be more than 2 effects of medica II on a player at a time... or limit it to only 1 stack in PvP
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    Quote Originally Posted by Evangela View Post
    healing is overpowered in Frontlines. they heal 2000+ HP (regen & medica II not included) in 2 seconds while DDs have to do hard works to deal 2000 damages.
    Considering it's easy to interrupt a healers cast. That isn't really much of a problem.
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    Player Divinemight's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Seoulstar View Post
    Considering it's easy to interrupt a healers cast. That isn't really much of a problem.
    Kill the healer cant rely on spell interrupt, because of regen spells. You need two DPS on them, one of them must be a monk for one llm punch to remove healer's buff and regen.

    This tactic doesnt work if there are more than 2 healers, in which it is a common norm now after people releaized how strong healers are.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Divinemight View Post
    Kill the healer cant rely on spell interrupt, because of regen spells. You need two DPS on them, one of them must be a monk for one llm punch to remove healer's buff and regen.

    This tactic doesnt work if there are more than 2 healers, in which it is a common norm now after people releaized how strong healers are.
    actually, can only take one dps on a healer. I was in frontlines before, mnk was hitting me while a bard was hitting the other healer. We couldn't heal each other thus dying.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Seoulstar View Post
    actually, can only take one dps on a healer. I was in frontlines before, mnk was hitting me while a bard was hitting the other healer. We couldn't heal each other thus dying.
    Then you prob need to learn to cast while under pressure. I've seen healers do just fine with much more pressure, than just two dps, if that was the case healers wouldnt be very effective.
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    Leinas Kroma
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    Quote Originally Posted by Evangela View Post
    healing is overpowered in Frontlines. they heal 2000+ HP (regen & medica II not included) in 2 seconds while DDs have to do hard works to deal 2000 damages.
    Partially true, as someone said before u will interrupt them and Rigene has a low potency for being really a pain, up to me the problem is that people when saw a lot of healer are worried and stat doing stupid things.
    To kill them u have to co-hoperate, usually they stack together in order to heal them self, and people think "just AoE them!"
    in my opinion this is the right way if u wanna wipe XD
    U need just a bard that continuosly AoE them, in order to interrupt, and then other has to focus 1 by 1 a healer.
    2000K damange are really easy do to if 3 or 4 DPS are attacking them, the healers have low HP and Low defense.

    And also there are 2 PvP skill that up to now no one used on me (I'm a SCH usually) Glory slash and Wither, that remove a Buff.
    When I use Attunement I'm really risking my life but no one used it, and I fought against a lot of SMN and PUG (not too much PAL
    to be honest xD)
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