Benediction

[Hollowed]

So any chance we could get this ability on a shorter CD? I mean 5min is really long considering its not really that powerful and it is WHMs only "oh sheeeet" button. Would a 2min recast or even 1 be to OP? Lustrate is on a 1min recast is why I ask. (And btw as a WHM main, yes, I am totally jelly of a SCHs Lustrate)Thoughts anyone?

[Ronove]

Lustrate is on a 1min recast is why I ask.

Lustrate is on a 1 second CD. I think you mean Aetherflow because that's on a 1 minute CD.

[YanderePrincess]

Lustrate is on a 1 second CD. I think you mean Aetherflow because that's on a 1 minute CD.

Triple Lustrate (which is still not as directly potent as Benediction) is on a 1 minute cooldown, though there is also the potential for six straight lustrates if you've gone a minute without lustrating.

[Hollowed]

Triple Lustrate (which is still not as directly potent as Benediction) is on a 1 minute cooldown, though there is also the potential for six straight lustrates if you've gone a minute without lustrating.

This is why Benny should have a lower recast, it is, by its very nature, an "oh sheet" ability, but for a CD that is the same as HG it is very under powered, HG can be used preemptively, a perfect example is solo tank T5 when the snakes come out, benny cannot. My co heal and I are good enough to never need benny, and I find myself never using it, at all, due to the long CD; the same way I rarely used PoM. Lustrate is an "oh sheet" same as benny, it heals for 25% less and has a FIVE TIMES shorter recast. Surely a recast closer to PoM would not make this ability OP...

[YanderePrincess]

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Ehhh, Lustrate -can- be an "oh shit" ability, but that's not how it mostly gets used, at least in my experience. It's definitely not how I tend to use it most the time.

Benediction is much more of an "oh shit" ability, since it's an immediately full restore, while Lustrate takes 3 seconds to restore 75% of target's HP. I do agree that 5 minutes is a bit too long for Bene, but I don't think it should be shorter than 3 minutes.

The main thing that bugs me is that WHM doesn't really have any way of dealing with healing debuffs that can't be removed, such as applied by Twintania starting with conflag phase. Granted, this does help with the whole "whm+sch" synergy, but it's still an issue, especially if you don't have a sch.

[Parawill]

Most WHMs seem to save their Benediction for saving the tank (and failing half the time due to animation). I use it tactically as a off-GCD heal to save casts. Why spend 3 or 4 GCDs healing someone when I can just pop Benediction and continue DPSing or healing a different person?

Lmao! I do this all the time when I'm running dungeons with my friends. I'm going all big-bang mode (Holy) and go "I want to keep holying" and pop a bene. Granted I don't rely on it on anything in exception to "o-shiva" moments, but that justifies the long cooldown. ^^

The main thing that bugs me is that WHM doesn't really have any way of dealing with healing debuffs that can't be removed, such as applied by Twintania starting with conflag phase.

Ugh. I hate healing debuffs that can't be dispelled. Esuna II please?

[Ashkendor]

for a CD that is the same as HG it is very under powered

HG is a 7 minute CD, actually.

[Hollowed]

HG is a 7 minute CD, actually.

My mistake, I only spoke out of what I Was told, I am no pld.

[Velox]

Triple Lustrate (which is still not as directly potent as Benediction) is on a 1 minute cooldown, though there is also the potential for six straight lustrates if you've gone a minute without lustrating.

While it's true that Lustrate is not as potent on a per-cast basis, by far it is a superior spell to Benediction in every way.

Lustrate is 25% per Aetherflow stack, totaling 75%.
Assuming 3 stacks per minute you have 375% total heal power every 5 minutes.
Assuming you had 3 stacks saved prior, you have 450% total heal power in that first 5 minutes and 375% every 5 minutes after.
Benediction is 100% heal power every 5 minutes.
Lustrate also has the benefit of applying the heal at the beginning of the animation, while Benediction applies it at the end.

With this knowledge, I wouldn't mind seeing Benediction's cooldown lowered to 3 minutes.

[monochromicorn]

i disagree with benediction not being powerful, its a full heal for gods sake. imagine healing 9k in one second, because it has no cast time. swiftcast+raise and then using benediction? perfect combination. yes it has an insane CD, but is justified. if every minute you could do a full heal on any player, that makes it way to easy. and, yes, i main as a WHm mage as well, and no, im not jelly of any ability that the scholars have.