Why bother with ATMA now?

[Sarynth]

If coil is supposedly ending in the 3rd turn, how can weapons from that be better than something that will be getting an upgrade throughout the games life?
Should probably add this is more aimed at a new 50 in 3.0 looking for a weapon. Of course there will probably be new weapons added by then, but one of the biggest arguments defending atmas as is is the "if you dont like the system dont do it" ^_^

[Valkyrie_Faleva]

Mentality of getting gear in this game is easy...
Work is involved and don't have the possibility of getting to lot in the end is a turn off for a lot of people. Relic is a side quest, and its called side quest for a reason, no one is pointing a gun to your head and telling you to do a relic. Shits a grind... Old school FF11 players should know it doesn't take 2 weeks to get an ebody or duelist chapeau, should I mention the relic weapon grind?
You find its ridiculous to start this side quest? No one will complain that you don't have one, you can't play your job? That's a different story.

[PenutButter]

The only reason to get start another ATMA now is the possibility that they will be upgrading the relic next patch (which I hear they were but not 100% sure). As it stands though, there is no reason to start a new relic if you only care about now, as other lv100 and 110 are far easier to get due to HUNTS, ST, and that more people are now getting through Coil. When it first came out, it actually took less time and effort to get than the UAT weapon but it was just so tedious and boring to get. Of course, the UAT was simply not an option at the time for most casuals, as even the more hardcore were still progressing through Coil, so you "filthy casuals" should been glad that you even had another option.

[xenok]

I'm just amused with the newest patch that they made non-relic weapons EVEN easier by making UATs guaranteed drops.

[samnas]

You can obtain better weapons now without the stupid ridiculous grind. Even Everquest from 1999 didn,t have a grind like this, plus I think its stupid that were grinding for ATMA items from low lvl FATES.

Why doesn't our epic weapons drop from epic bosses?????????????????????????.
Wouldn't that make sense? O no I need to farm lvl 4 fates,LOL LOL

15 years later and Everquest still has a better loot system than this crap.

We must have been playing different versions of EQ. The EQ I played had me camping a rare random zone spawn for weeks just for a small part of my epic. Then when it spawned I had to make sure the others camping it did not kill it first.

I loved EQ, but I think the passage of time and nostalgia are clouding your view.

[Eggnook24]

ATMA grinding would be fixed if they were random drops without needing Zenith equipped. At least you could level your other jobs running fates.

I'm on my books now, already bought my materia for the scroll, and looking forward to the glow. I don't think it's an argument of which is more hardcore, ScoB or relic grinding, but I do think it takes more dedication to upgrade the relic instead of running gated content hoping for your weekly drop. Which sounds better, RNG for actual weekly progression, or RNG for weekly progression? Yep, no difference I can see.

[Sensu]

And all those people saying their BiS is the T9 weapon, now see the Nexus that is on par if not better... a mindless grind will get you something better than a little skill does. Ohwell, I don't love my T9 weapon any less now that Nexus is out. <3

[Skyl1n3]

Because... 'dat glow :P

[ShienSarvong]

Because... 'dat glow :P

Daaaaaaaaaamn. That is stylin'. I gotta get on my Atma grind now...

[LionKing]

When mindless grind take over skills, think Nexus....