Why bother with ATMA now?

[Makendu]

atma drop is bull shit

[Fornix]

As far as the topic itself is concerned, there's truly no need to bother with ATMA. It serves no other purpose than vanity. For endgame purposes it's not required. And as long as wielding the relic weapon is required to progress through the stages of upgrading the weapon, it's by far one of the most tedious grinds seen in an MMO thus far.

You're far better of merely leveling offclasses, crafting, etc. And only start bothering with the relic weapon if you'd ever decide you'd be wanting it for vanity purposes.

[Ringabell]

And now we know that the next relic quest will be released in patch 2.38.

Look, if you haven't started on your relic yet, you need to start. Seriously. Don't wait until you realize: "Uh oh, it looks like the relic will eventually be the best weapon in the game" to BEGIN your relic. Just...start...now.

[erkhardt]

I don't always farm for ATMA, but when I do, it's for 12 hours and never get one.

I did that, and never tried again.

[Rydia13]

Y'all are some softies. It takes 0 effort to spam FATES while you queue for stuff. I get the drop rates suck, but it's not the end of the world. Specially if you do it between/during queues.

[Deceptus]

Anyone who says the current Atma/Animus/Novus grind is acceptable is being delusional and elitist. The work put in / reward given ratio is currently not worth the time investment to achieve the result. Why would you go through hours upon hours, spend millions of Gil in order to obtain something that is equal to what you have a chance to obtain in a single night?

This was a bad design decision by SE and why they are continuing it is concerning.

*Edit* For what it's worth, I have every relic and have zero, ZERO, urge to upgrade any of them.

[NorthernLadMSP]

Atma is frustrating sometimes, but not what people make it out to be, at least IMO.

I started doing Fates less than a week ago in between queueing for Frontlines, and yesterday finished the set for my summoner relic, which is the third relic I have gotten Atma sets for.

[Jican]

Anyone who says the current Atma/Animus/Novus grind is acceptable is being delusional and elitist. The work put in / reward given ratio is currently not worth the time investment to achieve the result. Why would you go through hours upon hours, spend millions of Gil in order to obtain something that is equal to what you have a chance to obtain in a single night?

This was a bad design decision by SE and why they are continuing it is concerning.

If you are referring to gil spent, you are wrong. You can gather/craft/convert all needed items for the entire relic. If you are referring to gil not made by using said items instead of sell, you are correct, it is very costly. I hate the entire process, from atmas, to farming fates for books, and haven't even gotten to the alexandrite phase yet. I think it needs a major overhaul to a better and different system, but that probably won't happen ever. I wish you all the best of luck with your relics if you so choose to use them.

[Everdark]

All those threads reminiscing about how awesome it was to camp NMs for days to try and get relics in FFXI and disparaging anyone who didnt get it as casuals lol. More than a few of them are now complaining about Atma, at least you don't have to wait for a fate to pop. During the atma phase anyway lol at least the "Trial of the Braves" should give those people fond memories.

anyway. Why should you do atama? the same reason people who hate DoH/DoH things, because its part of the game and has an interesting story.

[RiceisNice]

...and has an interesting story.

The relic quest line after the first step (obtaining the base weapon) has almost no backstory or substance to it; All they do is send you on your way to collect XYZ to "power" it up. Especially the atma portion of it where it doesn't gain any powerup at all (despite the npc telling you otherwise) and even lose the cosmetic glow to it; I felt like it got weaker after turning in all 12 Atmas.

You're also comparing it to XI, which from what I heard, the relic weapon was BiS at the end hands down. That would at the very least justify the tedium. Here (espesically after hunts and St release), handing in a piece of rock to a random schmuck gives you an equal Ilvl weapon that may have already have optimized stats depending on your class.

The amount of people who are being vocal Atma portion alone compared to those that are stuck on FATEs for animus books. Heck, of all the steps in the entire relic questine Atma has the most people voicing negatively about it.