Why bother with ATMA now?

[Sessurea]

I actually loved the atma quest so much. ( love/hate ofc ) That feel when one dropped =D

Then onto animus......didn't even finish 1st book, mundane heap of crap.

....don't even get me started on novus....masochistic.

Yup, i'll pass all that rubbish and just get the ilvl 110 weaps from vendor ( one that requires UAT )

There are quite a few options for decent weaponry nowadays.....why are these atma threads still active? xD

[Chrisbox]

I actually loved the atma quest so much. ( love/hate ofc ) That feel when one dropped =D

Then onto animus......didn't even finish 1st book, mundane heap of crap.

....don't even get me started on novus....masochistic.

Yup, i'll pass all that rubbish and just get the ilvl 110 weaps from vendor ( one that requires UAT )

There are quite a few options for decent weaponry nowadays.....why are these atma threads still active? xD

This is so odd. The animus books are such a joke compared to the atma grind in terms of effort required.

[EricCartmenez]

This is so odd. The animus books are such a joke compared to the atma grind in terms of effort required.

And guaranteed! It's been do this, kill this, join these fates. It's not like you're joining hundreds of fates and finally... Atma! It's successful completion - Move on. 3 fates, that's it. 3 dungeons, that's it. 10 times 10 bad guys, move on. The hard part is getting all the dang tomes on the way! You can complete a book in a day, then 1500 tomes to the next one. Hunts help for sure with that. I've been maxed out several times because of hunts.

[sagitis]

i hope that in the future if your spirit bond bar with relic is full your relic STAT will increase but it will reseted if sprinit bond bar becomes zero.

[HaelseMikiro]

I would still bother with the atmas personally. The biggest issue I see is that each individual relic takes a huge time commitment. I took my SCH book to Atma and Animus, then ended up switching my main class to DRG and I'd already started with the Novus. So...now I'm sitting 9 melds away from having SCH Novus, on a DRG with HA Spear, and Gae Bolg Zenith. Unfortunately, in a game which encourages players to do different things, the relics are going to very much be 'pick 1 or 2, and hope you stay playing these jobs enough to not regret it'.

[Benolan]

You can obtain better weapons now without the stupid ridiculous grind. Even Everquest from 1999 didn,t have a grind like this, plus I think its stupid that were grinding for ATMA items from low lvl FATES.

Why doesn't our epic weapons drop from epic bosses?????????????????????????.
Wouldn't that make sense? O no I need to farm lvl 4 fates,LOL LOL

15 years later and Everquest still has a better loot system than this crap.

Lies! It took longer just to wait for the boat in EQ than it does for an ATMA drop. :P

I will take Fate grinding any day over a Highhold Pass group, where you have to sit in line for a spot for 3 hours THEN spend 6 hours killing the same 4 things over and over.

[Daniolaut]

Why bother with ATMA now?.

I have been playing this game and enjoying it. There are so many things to do and i have a lot of fun every time i sign in.

Me personally i've noticed, as i gear each and every job, WAR, PLD, WHM, SCH, DRG, MNK, BLM, SMN that i find myself throwing away a lot of gear. Its not convertible, its not Grand Company provision-able, its not sellable. The only thing i know to do is just toss it.

I have 1 Novus (WAR) 1 Animus (PLD) and 2 Atma (WHM, MNK) and working to obtain all 9, (all 10 when they release Ninja.)

Why?

Because this is the only gear that is upgradeable and not something that i would just toss to the ground. High allagan, toss to the ground in 2.4, allagan, toss to the ground in 2.3, Darklight, toss to the ground in 2.0 etc etc. The only piece of gear thus far worth keeping would be your relic.

That is why you might want to 'bother' with ATMA now.

[Mjytresz]

I have been playing this game and enjoying it. There are so many things to do and i have a lot of fun every time i sign in.

Me personally i've noticed, as i gear each and every job, WAR, PLD, WHM, SCH, DRG, MNK, BLM, SMN that i find myself throwing away a lot of gear. Its not convertible, its not Grand Company provision-able, its not sellable. The only thing i know to do is just toss it.

I have 1 Novus (WAR) 1 Animus (PLD) and 2 Atma (WHM, MNK) and working to obtain all 9, (all 10 when they release Ninja.)

Why?

Because this is the only gear that is upgradeable and not something that i would just toss to the ground. High allagan, toss to the ground in 2.4, allagan, toss to the ground in 2.3, Darklight, toss to the ground in 2.0 etc etc. The only piece of gear thus far worth keeping would be your relic.

That is why you might want to 'bother' with ATMA now.

The difference is:
With a Relic, you upgrade it into a new one.
Which is the equivalent of throwing the old relic away and getting a new one.

The only difference is the amount of time and effort required. Do you want to run Leviathan EX tons of times or would you rather blow 3 weeks of FATE grinding and Myth grinding?

[Daniolaut]

The difference is:
With a Relic, you upgrade it into a new one.
Which is the equivalent of throwing the old relic away and getting a new one.

The only difference is the amount of time and effort required. Do you want to run Leviathan EX tons of times or would you rather blow 3 weeks of FATE grinding and Myth grinding?

Levi X is i95.

Novus is a customizable i110 weapon, and will become the Zodiac weapon which will be the most powerful weapon in the game.

I dont "throw away" my Zenith and then farm to obtain Atma, I upgrade it. If you didnt need a Zenith to obtain an Atma your statement would be correct but you must have the zenith to obtain the Atma, then must have the Atma to obtain the Animus etc etc. So no i'd have to disagree with your statement.

I see your point, in saying that the way to obtain them is different and youre right.

I can farm Levi X for 15 months and rarely see a specific weapon drop and then lose it to another player, or i can do content step by step and ensure I obtain the weapon.

Also please dont say "well you could never obtain an atma weapon cause the drops are terrible." I have 4 atma weapons atm. Its not that time consuming at all. And yes i did have trouble with some drops for each weapon.

[Mjytresz]

Levi X is i95.

Novus is a customizable i110 weapon, and will become the Zodiac weapon which will be the most powerful weapon in the game.

I dont "throw away" my Zenith and then farm to obtain Atma, I upgrade it. If you didnt need a Zenith to obtain an Atma your statement would be correct but you must have the zenith to obtain the Atma, then must have the Atma to obtain the Animus etc etc. So no i'd have to disagree with your statement.

I see your point, in saying that the way to obtain them is different and youre right.

I can farm Levi X for 15 months and rarely see a specific weapon drop and then lose it to another player, or i can do content step by step and ensure I obtain the weapon.

Also please dont say "well you could never obtain an atma weapon cause the drops are terrible." I have 4 atma weapons atm. Its not that time consuming at all. And yes i did have trouble with some drops for each weapon.

That....the analogy.
When you upgrade, you're throwing the old one away for a new one.
When you grind a new weapon, it's the same thing.
The difference is the time involved.

In fact, I think you'll miss the point of that too.
When you upgraded to Atma, where did your Zenith go? Obviously not in your inventory or retainers, so we're left to assume that the Zenith is gone and the Atma took its place. Which is the equivalent to straight up getting a new weapon.

I wouldn't care if Novus was i666, I probably still wouldn't grind it.