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    Player
    Llyren's Avatar
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    Llyren Wolfpaw
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    Excalibur
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    Archer Lv 50
    ATMA is not a juicy bit, it is rinse and repeat trivial low level content to win.

    The Grind may be a way to challenge the time rich player, but is a poor way to provide challenging content to pretty much everyone else.
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    Benolan Trueblade
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    Lamia
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    Conjurer Lv 60
    Some challenges test skill, some patience... some your will to live.
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    Cynfael's Avatar
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    Sacrilege Moonshadow
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    Hyperion
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    Black Mage Lv 80
    Atma is and will continue to be a poor design until they do something to mitigate the outliers on the RNG spectrum, namely the players who get hung up on this step for weeks of regular play. Adding a currency for FATE completion that would allow players to gradually progress as an anti-frustration feature could at least stop them from being gated for an absurdly long time without speeding up the process for the average player.

    I'm about to complete my Omnilex Novus, and I unfortunately have no desire to progress past Zenith on my other jobs. I kind of liked having the to-do lists for the Animus, but Atma farming dragged on for far too long to be fun. Finishing Atma was 0% accomplishment and 100% relief, which is a little messed up.
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    Makendu Uzumaki
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    Balmung
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    Gladiator Lv 50
    atma drop is bull shit
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    Fornix Amygdala
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    Odin
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    Gladiator Lv 60
    As far as the topic itself is concerned, there's truly no need to bother with ATMA. It serves no other purpose than vanity. For endgame purposes it's not required. And as long as wielding the relic weapon is required to progress through the stages of upgrading the weapon, it's by far one of the most tedious grinds seen in an MMO thus far.

    You're far better of merely leveling offclasses, crafting, etc. And only start bothering with the relic weapon if you'd ever decide you'd be wanting it for vanity purposes.
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    Sidney Dawnbreaker
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    Cactuar
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    Scholar Lv 74
    And now we know that the next relic quest will be released in patch 2.38.

    Look, if you haven't started on your relic yet, you need to start. Seriously. Don't wait until you realize: "Uh oh, it looks like the relic will eventually be the best weapon in the game" to BEGIN your relic. Just...start...now.
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    Sidney Dawnbreaker
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    Cactuar
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    Scholar Lv 74
    Quote Originally Posted by Ringabell View Post
    And now we know that the next relic quest will be released in patch 2.38.

    Look, if you haven't started on your relic yet, you need to start. Seriously. Don't wait until you realize: "Uh oh, it looks like the relic will eventually be the best weapon in the game" to BEGIN your relic. Just...start...now.
    Hopefully some smart person listened...
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    Maiyumi Moriyama
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    Leviathan
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    Pugilist Lv 50
    I don't always farm for ATMA, but when I do, it's for 12 hours and never get one.

    I did that, and never tried again.
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    Y'all are some softies. It takes 0 effort to spam FATES while you queue for stuff. I get the drop rates suck, but it's not the end of the world. Specially if you do it between/during queues.
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    Deceptus Keelon
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    Behemoth
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    Sage Lv 90
    Anyone who says the current Atma/Animus/Novus grind is acceptable is being delusional and elitist. The work put in / reward given ratio is currently not worth the time investment to achieve the result. Why would you go through hours upon hours, spend millions of Gil in order to obtain something that is equal to what you have a chance to obtain in a single night?

    This was a bad design decision by SE and why they are continuing it is concerning.

    *Edit* For what it's worth, I have every relic and have zero, ZERO, urge to upgrade any of them.
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    Last edited by Deceptus; 09-05-2014 at 07:54 AM.
    Veteran healers don't care if we need to heal, but right now we don't. We want interesting things to do during the downtime other than a 30s dot and a single filler spell that hasn't changed from lvl 4 to lvl 90.
    Dead DPS do no DPS. Raised DPS do 25/50% lower DPS. Do the mechanics and don't stand in bad stuff.
    Other games expect basic competence, FFXIV is pleasantly surprised by it. Other games have toxic elitism. FFXIV has toxic casualism.[/LIST]

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