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  1. #21
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rydia13 View Post
    Upgrade your relic and stop crying.
    Noone is crying except the people that are doing their relic..
    Everyone else is pretty happy by getting the best weapons in the game, without having to mindlessly grind for days

    Also i'm pretty sure in some live letter yoshi said the best weapons will always come from endgame raids (cant find source atm, looking later <.<)
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  2. #22
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    Smily Kweh
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    As far as relics go I got all the relics for the story line. You little a little bit of history and insight into the job. However animus does not offer story line. We also know that when the new coil comes out and we get i135 oil weapons. Novus will also be able to upgrade to i130 at the same time(unless they are behind schedule on it again). This means that the next stage after novus will be acquirable as a precursor to the HHA weapons. Remember novus was supposed to be 2.5 but it got pushed back to 2.9.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yotsu View Post
    Noone is crying except the people that are doing their relic..
    Everyone else is pretty happy by getting the best weapons in the game, without having to mindlessly grind for days

    Also i'm pretty sure in some live letter yoshi said the best weapons will always come from endgame raids (cant find source atm, looking later <.<)
    Well that's what I was getting at. Just do it without complaining cuz it'll pay off in the long run. I think you're right cuz I remember hearing that they said endgame raids will always be the strongest. However if you know SE, you know they bend the truth oftenly and even change their mind. Like I mentioned before, their intention isn't for everyone to posses the fully upgraded relic. They did the same thing in FFXI.
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    Last edited by Rydia13; 07-25-2014 at 12:23 AM.

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    Thera Logo
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    Quote Originally Posted by Avarghaladion View Post
    While I could be wrong, I don't recall seeing the devs express that opinion at any time. Also, calling SCOB core is illogical. If all non-SCOB ready players quit right now the game would flop overnight. Hardly core by any stretch, nor are SCOB-only subscribers though it may be the most central aspect of their personal playtime.
    Your arguments are based on lack of information or misinformation.
    Just because players choose to sit in Mor Dhona and have a fashion show instead of doing challenging content. Does Not mean coil isn't core to the FFXIV game.
    Its where all the top gear is.

    Quote Originally Posted by Avarghaladion View Post
    This would be a myopic stance even if it wasn't for the fact that there's 27 years of FF history that says otherwise. As relic progression compounds with each additional tier it grows increasingly difficult for anyone to rationalize RNG drops remaining superior indefinitely. It would be a bastardization of FF in general and completely marginalize the lore and atmosphere of the game and the series.
    1) Relic weapons only appear in XI and XIV, so "27 years of FF history that says otherwise" is just wrong.
    2) Relic progression does not increase in difficulty at all. In fact one could view the first tier as the hardest part (at its time) . There is nothing difficult about doing fates or maps.
    3) Everything else aside, Top end dungeon will always have the best gear. Thats how these games work.

    Stop trying to justify your misunderstanding.
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    Zenaku Yamada
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    If i remember yoshi-p said that the relic would become the most powerful wep in the game. Like when Curtana become a Excalibur it be the top item in the game. He also said that they be more upgrade to Excalibur to make sure this legendary sword and the rest of the relics stay the most powerful ingame.

    Sure he could end up changing his mind but he should pretty much tell us that now so we don't waste our time if that the case. I'm just going to keep doing it and hope he does not change his mind just to make player base that does not want to do it happy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zenaku View Post
    If i remember yoshi-p said that the relic would become the most powerful wep in the game. Like when Curtana become a Excalibur it be the top item in the game. He also said that they be more upgrade to Excalibur to make sure this legendary sword and the rest of the relics stay the most powerful ingame.

    Sure he could end up changing his mind but he should pretty much tell us that now so we don't waste our time if that the case. I'm just going to keep doing it and hope he does not change his mind just to make player base that does not want to do it happy.
    Source or it didnt happen.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Logo View Post
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    Sorry booboo but Coil isnt the only way to obtain the best gear available. They implemented this little content, you may not have heard about it but it grants access to a lot of the best gear in the game! Of course in talking about Hunts.

    Anyways, as far as other single player FF games go, while not being referred to as relic weapons per say, the "relic" weapons themselves do appear and some are BiS for those characters. A little research goes a long way hehe.

    Yea relics aren't getting harder per say, they've just gotten tedious. They're a timesink in a game that's aimed at casuals. You get the idea? Plus, I've been dealing with SEs shenanigans for some 10 years now and they follow a very strict formula and don't deviate much from it. Mark my words, Relics will be BiS in due time.
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    Last edited by Rydia13; 07-25-2014 at 01:22 AM.

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    Sidney Dawnbreaker
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rydia13 View Post
    Mark my words, Relics will be BiS in due time.
    Yep. I think this is pretty obvious.

    To anyone who hasn't begun your Relic quest, I highly suggest you begin NOW.

    ...or you can wait until we get word that the final Relic weapon will be 5 ilvls above all other game content, then start scrambling to join Atma parties with the other slackers.

    You've been warned.
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  9. #29
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    Char Landale
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    Why bother?
    Because its part of the game, the lore, the story.
    I don't know about you but I didn't buy this game to stand around in Mordohna looking fancy in gear I farmed from hunts.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AktaionQ View Post
    High Allagan Crook is BiS for WHM. http://www.xivdb.com/?item/7224/High-Allagan-Crook
    Thyrus gets more healing per cast despite HA having higher ilvl, magic dmg, and mind because of det. The total number of secondary points also isn't affected by weight.
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