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    velric42's Avatar
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    Kalimar Bloodmoon
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    Famfrit
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    Arcanist Lv 50

    Why bother with ATMA now?

    You can obtain better weapons now without the stupid ridiculous grind. Even Everquest from 1999 didn,t have a grind like this, plus I think its stupid that were grinding for ATMA items from low lvl FATES.

    Why doesn't our epic weapons drop from epic bosses?????????????????????????.
    Wouldn't that make sense? O no I need to farm lvl 4 fates,LOL LOL

    15 years later and Everquest still has a better loot system than this crap.
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    Natsuki Shinohara
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    Quote Originally Posted by velric42 View Post
    Why doesn't our epic weapons drop from epic bosses?????????????????????????.
    The best weapons in the game drop from an epic boss.
    Your point?

    Atma/Zenith/Animus is and always will be optional
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    Avarghaladion Thaliiavas
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    Sargatanas
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yotsu View Post
    The best weapons in the game drop from an epic boss.
    Your point?

    Atma/Zenith/Animus is and always will be optional
    Until you... y'know... need them In order to progress with the Relic questline... a concept that has been fundamental to FF Online's core, lore-centric gameplay for over a decade. Anyone who thinks looted weaps will be the gold standard in FF forever is deluding themselves.
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    Natsuki Shinohara
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    Quote Originally Posted by Avarghaladion View Post
    Until you... y'know... need them In order to progress with the Relic questline... a concept that has been fundamental to FF Online's core, lore-centric gameplay for over a decade. Anyone who thinks looted weaps will be the gold standard in FF forever is deluding themselves.
    Why would i care about the Relic Questline i've killed T9 and didn't even started the Quest.
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    Avarghaladion Thaliiavas
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    Sargatanas
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yotsu View Post
    Why would i care about the Relic Questline i've killed T9 and didn't even started the Quest.
    That's kinda the problem... casuals who just log on to run dungeon content bypass virtually all of the game's core content and lore.
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    Sun Tail
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    Arcanist Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Avarghaladion View Post
    That's kinda the problem... casuals who just log on to run dungeon content bypass virtually all of the game's core content and lore.
    This logic is... no words.

    "You're a casual you can beat the content and don't need outdated weapons. Filthy casual!"
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    Tomba Labomba
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    Ragnarok
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yotsu View Post
    Why would i care about the Relic Questline i've killed T9 and didn't even started the Quest.
    Huh? It's been some time but a finished Relict quest was the requirement to start Coil if I remember correctly. Maybe I am wrong, it is almost a Year ago for me.
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    Nutritious Delicious
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    Adamantoise
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    White Mage Lv 54
    Quote Originally Posted by Yotsu View Post
    Why would i care about the Relic Questline i've killed T9 and didn't even started the Quest.
    You don't have to care. Some people care some people don't.

    If you do not care about the Weapon's Lore
    ... or its appearance
    ... ... or the Bragging rights
    ... ... ... Or that it upgrades to ilvl 115 in its Nexus form.

    Then don't bother with it.
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    Thera Logo
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    Sargatanas
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    Lancer Lv 52
    Quote Originally Posted by Avarghaladion View Post
    Until you... y'know... need them In order to progress with the Relic questline... a concept that has been fundamental to FF Online's core, lore-centric gameplay for over a decade. Anyone who thinks looted weaps will be the gold standard in FF forever is deluding themselves.
    You are wasting your time for second best with the relic quest.
    The relic is actually "For Casuals", as an alternative to the end game raid that is actually fundamental to FFXIV core.
    The Raid drops will always be the gold standard.
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    Kagari Asuha
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    Ultros
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    Archer Lv 60
    Eventually these weapons will be quite good, although the best weapons will always come from Coil.
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