I... actually really like hunts

[Shimaru]

Yeah, I still see what I would of enjoyed, but the only time I think it can be enjoyable is when a bunch of A ranks are spawning and you actually get to them in low populated times. Like early morning. Still would of preferred something like group leves. I saw a video of 1.x having something like that (and the monster was Brontes, even).

[Swagcity]

Sounds interesting; unsubbed since 2013-ish iirc, considered coming back to play around with nin (When it is released) and frontlines, may try this out as-well.

[Hyperia]

I'm warming up to the hunts thanks to my FC friends. They showed me how I can catch up to the rest of the other raiders with 2 weeks worth of work which would otherwise take me literally months to achieve. Now that I see what it really is, catch up content, it will diminish to a more reasonable level after everybody has farmed it out.

[Ecks007]

A Rank Elites = 4 man PT to take down (originally solo)

B Rank Elites = 8 man PT to take down (originally 4)

S Rank Elites (very rare) = 8+ players to take down.

That is MINIMUM needed. Also.. I think you have your A and B mixed up. Not to mention B's are still able to be soloed, it just takes a little bit longer.

There is absolutely no reason to "wait for the horde"... in fact players not in a massive Hunt LS are hurting themselves if they do so. Meanwhile the "Hunt LS Hordes" get full credit for just a few hits because the Healers in those parties spam spells which clog up the screen with effects which causes the Mark to disappear and then no one outside those PT's can even target the damn thing let alone get any credit.

We do this at nights on our server, where there are still anywhere from 2-5 full parties out tracking hunt monsters. At night/early morning players are curtious enough to wait a few minutes while the other parties gather up. There is a limit to tolerance though, no one's going to wait 5 minutes for someone to get there before pulling. It's usually 1-2 at most because that's at most how long it takes to reach a mob once it's been announced. I am not even a part of any Hunt LS, however many of the players I regularly play with are. The only players having a hard time with hunts are PS3 players, and well, there's not much I can do about a hardware issue.

Do you know what happens when people wait for others to gather up before pulling and killing the hunt monster? Everyone gets full credit and is happy that they didn't get jipped. There is nothing bad about that.

[PixelPirate]

Ah yes how we all love the hunts. Zone after zone you can hear the /shout fights echoing through the canyons of Eorzea. The hatred and the butthurtedness ringing in my ears day after day, week after week. "Wait I'm omw!" "WHICH NEWB PULLED!!!??" "Yeah which effing moron face pulled" "Wait I'm omw!" "I said I was omw you eff tards!!" "It was Pixel Pirate!!! The loser idiot effed all of us over!!"

Ah yes, the love and enjoyment of Hunts.

P.S. AppRadar is cheating

[EternityFate]

Hunt is a amazing system.... their just need increase the fate spawm frequency and make it more dificult+ increase the HP based in numbers of players in the map.. but yoshi already said that he will fix it.. just be patient and don't go ragequit because this.

[Danbo05]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0dlNnWXyBHc

Hunts are tearing people apart, as well as families. There must be change!

[Taika]

Do you know what happens when people wait for others to gather up before pulling and killing the hunt monster? Everyone gets full credit and is happy that they didn't get jipped. There is nothing bad about that.

If I wait for the hunt LS groups to get there before pulling the mark I or my group has found, they will claim it and yeah, they will get full reward but not me or my group (at least if I'm not in full party).

If I found it, I'll claim it. If someone else found it, I'll wait for them to claim and take what I'll get. But it's simply dishonest to claim small groups won't lose by waiting for 50 other people to get there.

[Brine_Gildchaff]

Removing the human element, the hunts are pretty enjoyable. Though they do need a bit of tweaking, but they probably would be a tad bit of a challenge if done "as intended" rather than zerged down faster than goobue can sneeze.

Can personally confirm this from experience. Was in the South Shroud earlier tonight, see a shout go out. Someone had not only -found- Ghede Ti Malice, the local A rank, but had found it by... being aggroed by it. Alone. As a monk.

Luckily a passing warrior had joined forces and taken up a spot holding its ire, I switched to paladin and joined in shortly after. Then I start noticing that my health is dropping. A lot. See, Ghede Ti is a gremlin. He does the Misery debuff. Except he does it to everyone who gets within X yalms of him. And it's a stronger version. I'm facing him as an i96 paladin in Shield Oath and he's ripping 1000 points off me at a time.

Suffice to say that with only the three of us there things were VERY hairy for a while. Even when relief showed up in the form of a few scattered DPS things were very, very touch-and-go; the original monk who found it ended up dying and having to run clear back from Quarrymill. I was supremely thankful when a lone WHM showed up and started throwing heals on me and the warrior. Even then it took something like five full minutes to finally pull him down even though we ended up with about ten players in all. Very, -very- tricky fight and -gloriously- fun.

[Ecks007]

If I wait for the hunt LS groups to get there before pulling the mark I or my group has found, they will claim it and yeah, they will get full reward but not me or my group (at least if I'm not in full party).

If I found it, I'll claim it. If someone else found it, I'll wait for them to claim and take what I'll get. But it's simply dishonest to claim small groups won't lose by waiting for 50 other people to get there.

Why are you in a small group? Form a full party.. get full rewards. Not a hard thing to do. Need to fill up, okay, put your party in PF and you'll get people to fill the slots that are missing.

I don't know if Hunts were intended to be fought will small parties considering the way the contributions work, and since they benefit larger, full parties, then you should be going in a full party and not trying to do it in a small group and claim for yourself while other people are doing the hunts as well. If you want to go that route, then fine I guess. It's not efficient or helpful to anyone but your group. If you try to quickly get claim just so you have the tag because your party is 4 or less players. Not to mention you're going to quickly gather a reputation as a player who doesn't wait and generally are going to piss people off that also want to participate in the hunts. So.. good luck with that.

If you still are of the mindset that "Well I should be able to go as a small group and get full credit." Then I can't help you, the system doesn't work that way and won't until it gets some kind of change to it that allows for that. Right now it doesn't and in fact punishes you for not being able to add as much dps to the target. That's just the way it works. So go with the flow or get left behind. But that doesn't mean respect for others has to go away. Making a full party is simple. Waiting for a few minutes is simple, yet people can't seem to grasp that it benefits others while nothing negative happens to you when you are already there at the mob anyway. In a small party? Well better start inviting people that are shouting to get invited to fill up so you get full credit, or do the PF like I already suggested.