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    Hello there, I started playing FFXIV in 2.0, sadly I didn't get into 1.0 as I had no time for MMOs at that point. However, I do have a strong interest in the story that came before this so I was curious as to where the best place to go would be for reading up on the storylines before 2.0?
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    Easy Answer: YouTube

    Here's a Lore Map of all 1.0 quests. Ignore the links, they just go to prototypes of an eventual lore guide (see My Goal below). You just need to YouTube the names of the quests and watch the cutscenes. There's the Main Scenario (each city has a four quest introduction arc, then they combine into the Path of the Twelve Arc) and the shorter Guild Scenarios (small arcs dealing with each city's culture). These all end on semi-cliffhangers, and the Path of the Twelve arc was scrapped and rebuilt for ARR's main scenario. It's not to say these things are no longer canon, but they aren't part of the story anymore and as such we might never get answers about them. The only thing SE kept form the guild scenarios was the story of F'lhaminn and Neillefranse, probably because their stories directly tie into Minfilia, who was kept for 2.0's main story.

    After that, you'll see there's a very long and complex Seventh Umbral Era arc, this is when Yoshida-san took over, the VIIth Legion invaded and the Circle of Knowing manipulated the situation to re-establish the Grand Companies, and thwart their advance while at the same time dealing with the primal threat. This story is complex, but complete. I also wrote a summary for this fully canon story arc and SE let Fernehalwes answer some of the unknowns not addressed directly in the story, which is awesome, so here's that: The Rise and Fall of the White Raven

    Recommendation: Be a little wary of the summary videos. 1.0 was convoluted and incomplete, and many summaries are rife with errors (even the game itself had a few). Take it all with a grain of salt until you can be relatively sure you've got it all together. If all you want is a general idea of the story, you'll be fine.

    My Goal: Rebuild 1.0 as a list of story arcs that contain summaries, synopses, and transcripts that have been organized, proofed, and corrected. It's very slow going because the quests are just massive and I'm the only one working on it, so don't expect too much, there, lol. After more time spent on it than anyone would deem acceptable or healthy, I understand almost all of it and have filled in most of the plot holes via a ridiculous process I can only call "Lore Sudoku." Unfortunately, until I get all my transcripts together, I don't have an avenue to discuss most of it, lol

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    My Second (tongue-in-cheek) Goal: Convince Square Enix to bring back Sthalmann (aka Rostnsthal) in some form. Seriously, watch the four Lominsa intro quests + the Marauder storyline and see if you think this man was on a road to redemption and can't help but wonder what became of that. You know that whole Dark Knight Rises thing where Alfred had that fantasy he'd go on vacation and just see Bruce living a normal life somewhere? That's me, except I've convinced myself that, when expansion packs come out, we'll go to the Far East and find out that Sthalmann (feeling alienated when Dalamud fell and everyone came together under the Maelstrom but still wanted nothing to do with him) sobered up (sort of; you know, enough to function), sailed for a free city on the Far Eastern coast of Othard, and did something great with his life; maybe fighting the Imperial cause and recruiting their refugees into an authentic, Lominsan-style pirate fleet that now defends what's left of the independent cities there.
    We'll meet again, yet, ya bastard... <tries to make a Sea Wolf name that means Reforged, or Twice Forged, or Forged Anew...>
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    Part of v1 was the fate of the al migo rebels and the introduction of the garlean empire, mostly the white raven and the black wolf, and the fall of dalamud
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    @Anonymoose: Wow! This has been incredibly informative so far! Unfortunately I can not watch any videos at the moment,the article has been an amazing read. Ido have a few questions, if you don't mind.

    -From what I can tell, the Garlean Empire has control of every other place on the planet aside from Eorzea?
    -if Al Migo was considered the strongest nation (country?) of Aldenard then why are their rebels treated so poorly within the three city states?
    -Why was there a seal that preventing the primals from being summoned in Eorzea? How was it placed there? I know it's not a bad thing, but I am curious.
    -Is Midgardsormr the big skeleton wrapped around the airship for the loading screen of Mor Dhona? Is he considered a primal? I know he was a summon in past games, but that doesn't always seem to mean they end up as Primals IE: Siren, Diablos, Atomos.
    -You know, on the topic of Primals...why is it only the beast tribes have primals? Why doesn't mankind(lose term for all the playable and humanoid races) have a primal?
    - What is an Archon?
    - Why were there no Grand Companies at this point in the story?
    - Is it just me or is there some parallels between the rant of Nael van Darnus and the song 'Answers'?
    - Does this mean the whole time we've been collecting Tombstones for gear they've been records of Allgan secrets and thinga-ma-whosits? Considering all the Myth and Sold you need just for one player to complete all the content that requires of them...that sure is a lot of pieces of an ancient civilization laying around! xD
    - Do we ever find out what Daybreak is or was that the summoning ritual for the Twelve?

    Honestly, I'd love to see your goal complete as it's not just the main story line but all the extra little bits of lore that I'd love to sink my teeth into. Like how, according to some on the forums, Edda shows in the 1.0 story (or side story) somewhere along the way. That's fun to know!
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    I a not anonymoose, but I think I can make some guesses:

    Quote Originally Posted by LillithCale View Post
    -From what I can tell, the Garlean Empire has control of every other place on the planet aside from Eorzea?
    Preety much. It's like Code Geass or Star Wars with that

    -if Al Migo was considered the strongest nation (country?) of Aldenard then why are their rebels treated so poorly within the three city states?
    I'm betting on envy. And perheps the result aof a lala civil war that allowed Ul'Dah to conquer Ala Mhigo, granting them a superiority complex over the captured citizens and free reign to treat them like garbage (Also Ul'dah could be the Athens to Ala Mhigo's Sparta)

    -Why was there a seal that preventing the primals from being summoned in Eorzea? How was it placed there? I know it's not a bad thing, but I am curious.
    My guess is that the dragons and other people know how dangerous they are. Perhaps they cause an Umbral of their own and were sealed away after they were defeated.

    -Is Midgardsormr the big skeleton wrapped around the airship for the loading screen of Mor Dhona? Is he considered a primal? I know he was a summon in past games, but that doesn't always seem to mean they end up as Primals IE: Siren, Diablos, Atomos.
    No. I don;t think he is a primal, Siren was the closest but only becasue of her songs, atomos is a midboss split in three and Diabolos was sealed in Ampador instead of in Corthas.
    -You know, on the topic of Primals...why is it only the beast tribes have primals? Why doesn't mankind(lose term for all the playable and humanoid races) have a primal?
    There is some speculation that the twelve are primals.

    - What is an Archon?
    IDK

    - Why were there no Grand Companies at this point in the story?
    What point in the story? The GCs were disbanded sometime ago due ether to a prolonged peace of political fighting, the current GCs formed as a result of the Garlean invasion.

    - Is it just me or is there some parallels between the rant of Nael van Darnus and the song 'Answers'?
    May have to see both but for now I;d say it's just you.

    - Does this mean the whole time we've been collecting Tombstones for gear they've been records of Allgan secrets and thinga-ma-whosits? Considering all the Myth and Sold you need just for one player to complete all the content that requires of them...that sure is a lot of pieces of an ancient civilization laying around! xD
    Yeah these tombstones contain ancient myths, philosophies and military secrets. Basiclay like the Bible and the Art of War only they seem to of higher scope that the may contain as much myths as the total amount of mythos on earth.

    - Do we ever find out what Daybreak is or was that the summoning ritual for the Twelve?
    Daybreak is an attack used by Scylla to petrify the players. Though you might be refereeing to the magic Louisoux used to attempt resealing Bahamut., if so that I personally haven't figured it out yet.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LillithCale View Post
    From what I can tell, the Garlean Empire has control of every other place on the planet aside from Eorzea?
    Eorzeans have a very limited worldview and we know very little about the planet. We know that there's a series of three massive continents that, for the sake of this explanation, you can think of as being like Africa, Europe, and Asia. These are called the "Three Great Continents." The continent in Africa's position would be Aldenard, Aldenard and it's surrounding islands create a cultural sphere called the realm of Eorzea. In the northeast, there's a land bridge connecting us to the middle of the Three Great Continents, Ilsabard, which is in Europe's position. This is where the Garleans are from - Garlemald conquered the northern nations and solidified them into an Empire and then conquered the rest of the middle content. After that, they went east, to the last great continent, Othard, in Asia's position, and conquered most of it. A few independent and strategically worthless cities that are benign to imperial domination still exist on Othard, but for the most part the Far East is subjugated under Imperial rule.

    So, back to your question: The Garleans obviously control a lot of land, being in control of two of the Three Great Continents. But there's islands of various sizes all around that seem to be presently free of Imperial rule. There's also the possibility that beyond the Three Great Continents there are others. Maybe there's something where you'd expect the Americas to be, to keep this metaphor going. We only know Othard and Ilsabard in abstract concepts, we don't even know what they look like, yet, so it's all Terra Incognita, and realistically speaking, the Garleans control only a fraction of it (but, still, a respectable chunk).

    Quote Originally Posted by LillithCale View Post
    if Al Migo was considered the strongest nation (country?) of Aldenard then why are their rebels treated so poorly within the three city states?
    There are a lot of reasons all factoring into their present condition at once. Something easily overlooked is the fact that Ala Mhigo waged a war on Gridania in an attempt to expand not long ago. I'm sure that wound isn't entirely healed yet; most of the cities got dragged into it. Then, you have the fact that the Ala Mhigans who live in Thanalan now fall into two groups - refugees and scrappy, patriotic freedom fighters. They're dependent on assistance and being offered work, and many aren't making much of an attempt to integrate into Ul'dahn culture. You can see where the Ul'dahns, who value power and wealth above all, wouldn't treat them very well. In 1.0, Ala Mhigo was even worse than it is now - a few tents in a cave - the only reason they're better off now is that Raubahn integrated well into Ul'dahn culture, dominated the Coliseum, became immensely wealthy, and then used his seat on the Syndicate to restore the Immortal Flames and revive the dying spirit of Royalism (loyalty to the sultana; most on the Syndicate are monetarist, loyal only to profit). The Ala Mhigan brigade of the Immortal Flames and Raubahn's good will probably went a long way to getting Ala Mhigans work and opportunities to take part in the city's defense and maintenance, but most still just consider them a burden unless they can find a way to exploit them. Look at any real-world mass immigration of unskilled laborers; lots of hostility in the American melting pot over the years seeing waves from Germany, Ireland, Italy, and most recently, Mexico.

    Quote Originally Posted by LillithCale View Post
    Why was there a seal that preventing the primals from being summoned in Eorzea? How was it placed there?
    Unknown, unknown, unknown aaand unknown. I assume it'll come up again someday, in the story, but for now it's all a big mystery. It's not 100% confirmed, as far as I know, that the primals were sealed. Othard summoned primals just fine before the seal broke, so either only some local primals were in it or it was just an artistic representation of what happens when a bunch of beast tribes are praying to their gods at the same time a massive aether concentration explodes. It sure did look like primals were just exploding out of that aether flood when the seal broke, though. Mor Dhona is the center of the world's aetherial network - whether the Allag made it that with Crystal Tower or whether they built Crystal Tower there because of it is kind of a chicken and egg situation, and depending on that information you can make a few guesses. They were also pretty good at sealing primals... so... unknown, unknown and unknown. But probably Allagans. Because Allagans.

    Quote Originally Posted by LillithCale View Post
    Is Midgardsormr the big skeleton wrapped around the airship for the loading screen of Mor Dhona? Is he considered a primal?
    Yes, the skeleton is Midgardsormr, no he was not a primal (the skeleton proves that - primals just dissipate back into aether. Midgardsormr was a king among dragons, which is why the Dravanians tore the Garleans to pieces at his behest. Why he was there, why he was so big, why he was so different from other dragons - all that's up in the air. I'm sure there'll come a point in the story when a dragon or a primal (or that big dragon primal) takes a minute to impart some wisdom about that.

    Quote Originally Posted by LillithCale View Post
    why is it only the beast tribes have primals? Why doesn't mankind have a primal?
    There's no proof we don't. Then again, there's no proof any primals really belong to anyone, or even exist outside of their cultural mindset. The nature of primals is very mysterious. There's an "essence" that latches onto prayers and if we feed it enough aether it gains a temporary form in our realm. What is this essence? We don't know. But it's been implied over and over that you can do the same thing with just about anything, including the Twelve. It's implied that the primals are images - icons - false gods - created by prayers and aether, and that you don't quite get what you wished for. Look to the Moogles to figure out what happens when you summon a mythological figure; the whole thing falls apart when they start behaving just like a primal. For all we know, if you earnestly, honestly, zealously believed in a Burrito Knight, and wished really hard to summon it while adding a bunch of aether, it might appear in all of its spicy glory. And then it would demand lots of aether and try to temper you and start a big feedback loop to maintain its own existence and power. The thing is, the primals have way, way more power than the manifestation of Good King Moggle Mog, so there may be something to this "essence" thing that we haven't figured out yet.

    Quote Originally Posted by LillithCale View Post
    What is an Archon?
    Long story short? A mythical figure that appears around the time of a Calamity to lead people out of it on behalf of the Twelve; though of as an earthly incarnation of the gods. What truth, if any, is there to the legend? No idea, but Louisoix and his best student, Urianger, fit the bill well enough, so that's what we call them. We still don't really know if they called themselves that because there's some truth in the tales, or because it would make Eorzeans more likely to trust them, or if they're doing it to be ironic hipsters who make inside-joke puns because "archon" means "ruler" (in the sense of a head of a group) and Louisoix led the Circle of Knowing, a position Urianger inherited and seems to retain in some degree even though the Circle and the Path combined into the Scions. Enkidoh and I go into it a little deeper here.
    Quote Originally Posted by LillithCale View Post
    Why were there no Grand Companies at this point in the story?
    Think of the Grand Companies as an emergency declaration of martial law that happens when a Calamity hits and an Umbral Era begins. It's a traditional, cultural thing. When the Astral Era collapses, the cities entrust a great deal of their power and authority into the Grand Companies so that they might be saved. Until Dalamud started falling, people had no reason to believe the Sixth Astral Era was over. Hell, even when Dalamud was falling there was a lot of denial about it and some figured it'd be a lesser evil to take their chances not declaring martial law (and some were just greedy and power hungry and didn't want to let their influence go until it was that or get stomped to death by magitek and crushed by a moon).

    Quote Originally Posted by LillithCale View Post
    Is it just me or is there some parallels between the rant of Nael van Darnus and the song 'Answers'?
    There are connections everywhere. Some are real, some are coincidental, some are imaginary. If you figure out which are which, let me know!

    Quote Originally Posted by LillithCale View Post
    Does this mean the whole time we've been collecting Tombstones for gear they've been records of Allgan secrets and thinga-ma-whosits?
    First, they're tomestones, not tombstones. Tome - stone. Like a stone that has a book's worth of information in it. Don't feel bad if you've been calling them by the wrong name. In 1.0, the German client even translated them as Allagan Grave Stones. Essentially, they're pieces of quartzlike material that have been used as an information storage tool. When Darnus showed up, he went looking for them because he needed a few pieces of missing Allagan information to complete his lunar transmitter replication. Unfortunately for us, he got lucky and found it. Cid even handed it over because he figured it was weathered and worthless (GOOD GOING, BUDDY). Now that we know they're not worthless, there's a storm of people trying to gather them all up and learn their secrets. Rowena got her start working for an Ishgardian noble who was after Allag artifacts. She seems like a self-made woman now, but she's still after Allag stuff. Makes you wonder if they're still in contact. Makes you wonder who he is - what he wants - what he's doing.

    Quote Originally Posted by LillithCale View Post
    Do we ever find out what Daybreak is or was that the summoning ritual for the Twelve?
    It's you! The Champion of Eorzea - chosen of Hydaelyn - the very best of the Warriors of Light. Though spoken of as a sword, symbolically, in the Divine Chronicles of Mezaya Thousand-Eyes, Daybreak seems to be sword in a metaphorical sense - a warrior. The game has lots of throwbacks to this if you read what NPCs say about you and look out for them. You're the "blade of light," "Eorzea's sword in the darkness," etc. Louisoix knew this, and he hinted at it gently, but we left the door open for speculation because Fanon is bad. Doesn't matter how obvious it is, it's not really canon until SE says it clearly and you're sure it's the truth.

    Quote Originally Posted by LillithCale View Post
    Honestly, I'd love to see your goal complete
    What a coincidence! Me, too! Thing is, I also kind of want to finish college and eat stuff and not be homeless, and I also kind of want to play this game sometimes, too, I guess. This severely limits my solo resources, so, uh, we'll see...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Morningstar1337 View Post
    Preety much. It's like Code Geass or Star Wars with that
    Ahh, I see. That makes some sense. Though I do wonder if there are places that have yet to be discovered.
    Quote Originally Posted by Morningstar1337 View Post
    I'm betting on envy. And perheps the result aof a lala civil war that allowed Ul'Dah to conquer Ala Mhigo, granting them a superiority complex over the captured citizens and free reign to treat them like garbage (Also Ul'dah could be the Athens to Ala Mhigo's Sparta)
    There was a lala civil war? I had no idea! That actually sounds kinda adorable.
    Quote Originally Posted by Morningstar1337 View Post
    My guess is that the dragons and other people know how dangerous they are. Perhaps they cause an Umbral of their own and were sealed away after they were defeated.
    It would make sense for people of the days past to do something to seal them away, but I imagine it would be pretty handy to figure out exactly what they did. It might come in use for sure.
    Quote Originally Posted by Morningstar1337 View Post
    No. I don;t think he is a primal, Siren was the closest but only becasue of her songs, atomos is a midboss split in three and Diabolos was sealed in Ampador instead of in Corthas.
    Midboss you say? That makes me wanna give him a nickname -Insert Disgaea joke-

    Quote Originally Posted by Morningstar1337 View Post
    There is some speculation that the twelve are primals.
    You know, I've been thinking the same thing myself. I had always thought that perhaps the reason why it failed to imprison Bahamut again was because they were trying to use the power of primals against a primal, though the write up stats that it failed because their power was held back intentionally to try and go easy on the land.

    Quote Originally Posted by Morningstar1337 View Post
    What point in the story? The GCs were disbanded sometime ago due ether to a prolonged peace of political fighting, the current GCs formed as a result of the Garlean invasion.
    It was in reference to the write of the story I was linked were it mentions the Scions (I don't think they were the scions back then though) used the confusion to re-establish the GCs.

    Quote Originally Posted by Morningstar1337 View Post
    Yeah these tombstones contain ancient myths, philosophies and military secrets. Basiclay like the Bible and the Art of War only they seem to of higher scope that the may contain as much myths as the total amount of mythos on earth.
    Huh, well, I guess now I see why you can get such good gear for them. You are basically selling ancient secrets.

    Quote Originally Posted by Morningstar1337 View Post
    Daybreak is an attack used by Scylla to petrify the players. Though you might be refereeing to the magic Louisoux used to attempt resealing Bahamut., if so that I personally haven't figured it out yet.
    I was in fact referring to the magic I brought Daybreak up because it mentions that in the write up and I was curious as to what, exactly, it was referencing.
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    (I recommend Moose answers if both wall of text at the same time made you miss it)
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    Heading home from work! Though I'll be working on a pile of replies when I get home for sure :3
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    Quote Originally Posted by Anonymoose View Post
    It's you! The Champion of Eorzea - chosen of Hydaelyn - the very best of the Warriors of Light. Though spoken of as a sword, symbolically, in the Divine Chronicles of Mezaya Thousand-Eyes, Daybreak seems to be sword in a metaphorical sense - a warrior. The game has lots of throwbacks to this if you read what NPCs say about you and look out for them. You're the "blade of light," "Eorzea's sword in the darkness," etc. Louisoix knew this, and he hinted at it gently, but we left the door open for speculation because Fanon is bad. Doesn't matter how obvious it is, it's not really canon until SE says it clearly and you're sure it's the truth.
    So Daybreak refer to the Warriors of Light huh? Never thought of it that way (but then again I never seen the term used outside ST either)
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