PvP still zero fun

[Reokudo]

I actually like the PVP. I hated PVP in other MMO's(WoW, TERA. Especially Tera. That laggy cesspool. Team losing? Time to go for a swim.) Not seeing names, or even needing actual PVP gear in it makes me like it. Anyone can go in and perform well. It's annoying for a melee, bu still pretty funny chasing a WHM or a SCH and whacking/stunning them. The satisfaction I get when downing a lalafel knows no bounds.

[CSX]

What the heck is the point in even doing FL? PVP Gear is useless, we're not graded individually, we're graded by 1st, 2nd or 3rd place as a group and because we're graded as a group PVP gear will be useless even if it was useful. It's a circle, you go around but go nowhere.

No fun at all.

[Hocchi]

PLD aren't at all useless, favorite class to FL with so far.
Many things that can help, running first and popping tempered will/hallowed to get people to waste their knockbacks, cover/tetsudo is especially nice when they try focusing on one healer/or a healer gets holmganged, tab stunning their backline casters & melee helps negate a lot of the burst, full swings 20% damage taken debuff is nice too when trying to focus down a healer/fleeing players, etc etc.
Damage isn't terrible, just switch out to DPS gear and Sword Oath.

[Giyari]

The real reason people aren't having fun is because they are going alone.

I have fun because I go with my FC, and with voice chat the hilarity is non stop. In addition , our team is more organized and knows how to focus fire targets.

Our dps distract threats to the healers and such, we use tactics.

You get non of that with random people.

If you are going in alone, you are not doing it right.

[Dgsoil]

The real reason people aren't having fun is because they are going alone.

I have fun because I go with my FC, and with voice chat the hilarity is non stop. In addition , our team is more organized and knows how to focus fire targets.

Our dps distract threats to the healers and such, we use tactics.

You get non of that with random people.

If you are going in alone, you are not doing it right.

Pretty much this, along with knowing your role.

OP you sound like you want your PLD to go in and be a monster of destruction but that just isn't how GLA/PLD works. In PVP you are there to help your group in the tank role, you distract people, you stun lock an opponent, you hit that annoying mage with a silence midcast. No you won't win in a one on one duel most of the time, but that isn't what you should be doing anyway. If you dislike the way GLA/PLD works in PVP, may I suggest you try another role? That is the purpose of the multiclass system after all.

[Ragecake]

Hey OP. You need to speak for yourself! There are many of us enjoying Frontlines PvP.

Sure it's not perfect. Sure they can do many things to make it even better.

You also seem to forget that this game is still a baby. It has a lot of room to grow. I look forward to see what they come with next.

[Shairine]

Hey OP. You need to speak for yourself! There are many of us enjoying Frontlines PvP.

Sure it's not perfect. Sure they can do many things to make it even better.

You also seem to forget that this game is still a baby. It has a lot of room to grow. I look forward to see what they come with next.

i just wrote my opinion whats your problem

[Ragecake]

i just wrote my opinion whats your problem

I wrote my opinion on your opinion. Whats your problem?

[Divinemight]

i just wrote my opinion whats your problem

If you have posted your "opinion" on a discussion fourm, you are also open to criticism and now you are just being criticized. You have to take it or you shouldnt post.

Also, it sound to me that you are making same mistake as those who claims Marauder > Warrior in the Frontline? Fundamentally, you just doesnt understand the basics of Paladin. You are not enjoy the Frontline because you are trying to play a job in aggressive way when it is fundamentally a defensive job.

[Vandril]

Also, it sound to me that you are making same mistake as those who claims Marauder > Warrior in the Frontline?

I know this is off topic, but why do you call that a mistake? Do you think that WAR > MRD in PvP? I had a huge conversation about comparing the Job and its Class in another thread, arguing as a proponent to WAR, but, after doing a bunch of the math and better understanding the mechanics of the class and its skills, I have determined that I was wrong and that MRD is superior in nearly every way. The only thing that WAR was shown to be better at was self-survivability. MRD seems to be a far better damage AND support class than the WAR job is, due to the cross-class skill selection, which makes it play the general role that tanks play in PvP better than even WAR does.

Given all that, I'm just curious as to what your reasons are for believing that WAR >= MRD.

Anyway, on topic: OP, I play a PLD in Frontlines and I love it. We actually do have a fair lot of damage, but it's found almost solely in our 4 off-GCD damage abilities (2 of which are PvP), Mercy Stroke (MRD), and Rage of Halone while pumped up with Fight or Flight. If I'm adamant on taking someone out, generally a healer, I'll try to hit them enough to remove any damage absorbs (such as Stoneskin), get them to around 80% health (most won't heal when at that amount), apply Fracture (MRD), and build up to where I can use Rage of Halone. Then, I'll pop Fight or Flight followed by Full Swing for the extra damage, use Rage of Halone, using Circle of Scorn and Spirits Within during the GCD wait, then using Shield Bash, using Full Swing during that GCD wait, then using two more back-to-back Shield Bashes. Generally, the enemy healer will drop low enough for a Mercy Stroke, and I can finish them off with a simple Fast Blade or, if they ran, 1-2 Shield Lobs.

While I do have STR accessories, I only have an ilvl 70 weapon, and this still works nearly every time.

Beyond my minimal, though existent capacity for dealing damage, I also chain CC amazingly. I can completely lock someone out of action while they're being focused for a full 7 seconds, 8 if they're a caster. Often times, all I have to do to ensure a kill on a healer is spam stuns on it the moment 1-2 other people are on him. And, of course, I minimize incoming damage to my team by CCing the enemy players who seem to be dishing the most damage.

I also love using Cover. Cover can be a real game changer. I have saved innumerable healers with Cover and Testudo (not at the same time, except in extreme cases since Cover doesn't stop magic damage). And, of course, I've managed to save healers by using Stone Skin on them and letting them get off a last-second heal while it held.

There are a lot of reasons to love my PLD in PvP. I enjoy it. I don't think the low damage is really holding me back from enjoying myself overly much.