PvP still zero fun

[Khaoticsuccubus]

no I am talking about pvp in general in ff, frontlines and wolfsden. I played many MMO's and I think to compare FFXIV with other MMO's like WoW or Tera or Guildwars is legit. And for such a great game it lacks hard in terms of PvP, thats just a fact you cant denie.

I mean its my own opinion. If you enjoying PvP thats good, but I am not happy with it. There are too many things missing.

1. No Open PvP

5. No Balance (as a Paladin you deal 0 dmg for example)

6. Autobalance on Itemlevel is the stupiest thing I ever heard. And its Copy&Pasta from Wildstar

1. Well Open PvP just worked fine in other MMO's why shall it not work here too? There are 3 factions by the way.

5. as i mentioned before they should create only pvp skills for each class.

1. The three city states are not at war with each other. Not even hostile really. They are allies. In frontlines they've agreed to more of a competition over the territory but, otherwise they have absolutely ZERO reason to attack each other on sight. In fact their leaders are strongly against that.

WoW is pretty much 50/50 pve/pvp. GW is similar but a bit more focus on the pvp. Tera is through and through designed for pvp, pve is almost an afterthought there. In contrast FF14 is the opposite. It is through and through designed for pve. Now, pvp isn't really an afterthought for it in the same way pve is for Tera but, it will never be add in just for the sake of adding it. It has to make SENSE within the STORY.

5. Problem there comes from the sheer amount of skills required to accomplish that. Regardless, I would rather they rework a class like Paladin (who by far is a snorefest imo, ability wise) into something who's gameplay isn't the grand sum of running into a crowd and screaming at the top of their lungs ;P

6. You... You do realized Wildstar just came out... right? And that FF14 arr has been out for almost a year now? Item sync has been a constant all over the game. Why would frontlines have been different? They didn't need to copy Wildstar. It was always going to be this way ;P

[Divinemight]

no I am talking about pvp in general in ff, frontlines and wolfsden.

This is your issues:

1. Open PvP, it is just a group of players ganking solo players, it doesnt involves skills.
2. The game is balance around team PvP and there is this triangle rule: Meele > Bard > Casters > Meeles
3. This is your hardware issue. If this is a server side issue, people would be start crying.
4. Waiting time is depending on the popularity of GC, if you are Malestorm, you jsut have to deal with it.
5. Balance is around team PvP, Paladin is not design for damamge output, its role is to control the combat pace by effectively protect your own team's healer. Also, no, Paladin has enough damamge, you just need to do stance dance between shield and sword oath.
6. Everyone starts equal, you wont see geared player taking advantage on non gear players. If you dont like it, you have other choice, but others seem to enjoy this idea.

[Nouran]

hello

I hate PvP in this Game

Then dont play PVP in this game.

but I love this Game

Then play this game

because the Wolfsden was just a waste of time

Then dont play this game

and I love PvP and until this patch

Then play this game

the fights are absolutly boring

Then dont play in this game

dude, you have 2 simple solutions ... either you play or you do not, why so serious ?

[Zaero]

I find it enjoyable as blm. That said, you can't play as a one man army. You will get wrecked.

I'll run with a buddy or with someobe else to back me up, but I see it this way:

Plds and mnk are walking stunners. Their goal is to stop everyone casting.

Scholars are just evil

Brd is run and gun
Blm is sudden flare of doom

But eh, im having fun but that's relative to me. Each their own.

[Rydia13]

Speak for yourself lol I love Frontlines There are so many ways to outsmart your opponents to get the win all while trying to defend your turf. It's fun.

[Yotsu]

This is embarrassing :S

[Sadana]

IMO, Wolves Den is no fun, but Frontlines is because there's lots more going on. Are you talking about Wolves Den specifically?

[Rbstr]

I find frontlines to be tons of fun. I actually prefer to heal as WHM. Besides the healing there's lots of utility with repose, Holy's aoe stun and stone's heavy. Hilarious Fluid Aura punting action.

It sounds, mostly, like you're just unhappy with the paladin's role.
Paladins don't deal much damage. But they have a GCD stun, a silence and they can soak up damage like crazy. Sic them on the enemy healers and you create a ton of interrupted casts. You wouldn't want a party of them but one is useful.
If you want to really lay the hurt on people you need to get a DPS class. Though, similar to Marauder, going as Gladiator and pulling a bunch of cross-class DPS boosting skills could help you deal a good bit of burst damage.

If you want a ton of people to participate on a fairly level field, the only thing you can do is ilevel sync. If you tier it like the Den you'd have far worse queue issues.

[Cuervo78]

I agree that duelling would be nice.
Open PvP will most likely never come, since it doesn't fit into the lore. Besides I wouldn't like the thought that some jerks nuke me while I am mining mats (low hp, 0 combat skills)

[Malamasala]

I don't get this interest in dueling.

It is like saying Tank vs Jet plane, who will win? Oh, the Jet plane won, what a surprise. The classes are so specific that it would be clear before the duel started who'd win. For example BRD would have a really high upper hand in being able to run and gun. As long as a healer can out-heal and MP regen more than the DPS put out, the healer would never lose. And so on.