Hunt Seals getting raised?

[L-D-Omlette]

I really dislike the suggestions to adapt this game to casual players. Like every other mmo, hardcore players work hard to get the best gear, and casual players... work over
time to reach their goal. You have to take a look at the weekly bills. They do actually give you a decent amount of seals. You kill a B rank (worth 5 seals) and you get a 20
seal bonus in addition to the 5 seals. That is the same as killing 5 B ranks. How can you complain?

Even spending 1-2 hours in a hunt group you can pretty quickly get another 100 seals (or more depending on linkshells). Boosting the bill rewards makes little sense to me tbh.
If you want a bonus they can throw in some gil.

Assuming all you did was the daily and weekly marks and were able to complete them every day/week, it would take thirteen and a half weeks to obtain ONE piece of vanity gear. You think this makes sense?

[...]people who put in 5 hours of gaming a week think they should obtain everything at the same time as someone who puts in 25 hours a week. It's absolutely ludicrous.

This is an exaggeration. Everyone I know that plays casually (myself included) doesn't believe we should obtain everything at the same time as those that can commit more time. We have no delusions that we will get HA gear by walking around C. Than. nor do we believe we should.

What we do want is something worthwhile to shoot for without being forced to play for 20+ hours a week. Daily marks should be a viable alternative to obtain items in a reasonable amount of time. This doesn't mean I should get 100 seals a day, but with rewards as they are now the minion would take about seven weeks to get. The beast tribe quests only took 30 days to be eligible for a minion, it isn't unreasonable to expect hunt bills to be on par with that.

[Powercow]

20x higher? Really... That would put us at 140 seals a day. From dailies... So I should be able to ding 50 and be i90 in 2 or 3 days and you consider that respectable?

You realize the more cunning players would just join the zerg and be geared in full i90 in a few hours, right?

Nerfing the rewards from the hunt zerg isn't an option at this point. That ship has sailed. People would complain that the people who did the hunts first got ridiculously huge rewards while the newer players got screwed over. It's time to stop thinking in terms of nerfing hunts and in terms of buffing other things. Considerably fewer people would feel compelled to join the horde and slaughter the hunts, especially the B hunts, if they had some viable alternative.

[Marael]

To me, the roving hoarde of zergfestness isn't fun. It reminds me all too much of FFXI with Campaign Battle where everyone stands around a central location until a battle is announced, teleports, zergs, repeats, and that got old REALLY fast. Just like Hunts did for me. I'd love for the dailies to give meaningful rewards so I don't have to trigger my FFXI PTSD any longer. I'm not talking like hundreds a day. People who brave the zergfest grind should receive much better and faster rewards for it. But 7 a day from dailies is a little insulting to anyone who would prefer a more relaxed state of gameplay than running all over the place and hoping they get to whatever mob wherever it popped before someone pulls it, and that they get enough of their group there with them to get full credit for it, and pray that the mob actually loads up on their screen etc etc etc. To me, that's more stressful than my actual job, and I play video games to relax after work, not stay wound up.

[TheCurls]

I'm still gonna say the reward is fine. Daily hunts could be increased, but 40-50 seals is just ridiculous.
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So, 40-50 seals per day on the daily hunts is ridiculous, but capping myth tomes several times a day as well as capping soldiery tomes in one day, plus several hundred seals each day for the elite marks isn't ridiculous?

[Seibah]

All those people at work? Pft! They don't work hard at all! Those lazy bums! How dare they try to get some gear in a game they pay money for!

While they're at it, should they take off the mog/levi requirement for Ramuh, T5 req for Coil 2, and so on? Because why should one not have immediate access to everything in a game they're playing for, right?

no1curr that you pay a monthly sub then choose to spend time complaining on the lodestone instead of, you know, actually trying to get into a party for what seals you CAN get.

Everyone is paying an equal entry fee, stop using the "b-but I'm paying" as though it makes you more entitled to the hunts than anyone else.

ps I can say from experience it is not the late night/early morning crowd at night/mornings that is causing most problems. Hunts go to crap when the after work/school crowd comes on.

[Vahlnir]

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While I get what you're saying, I disagree with almost everything you said...though I can confirm the last part of your post as to what times are good to hunt and agree with you there. If people have more time to play, then they deserve more, possibly better rewards depending on the content. That was never the question and you completely missed their point. The daily rewards for hunts are crap, period. Even the devs haven't denied this, and are looking into a possible raise. Should people who farm elite marks get more out of it? Yeah. But the people wanting to farm seals with daily marks aren't getting anywhere at this point, which IS a problem. It's not that people don't want it to take time, it's that people want to be rewarded for that time a bit more as far as daily hunts are concerned, even if the grind for what they want would take a month or 2. It's better than half a year, possibly more that it would take currently.

[Seibah]

I didn't miss any point; I completely agree with you the daily hunt marks are an absolute joke and need to be buffed up. My issue is with people using something like "I have a job" or "I pay for this game" as a way of putting down people who do have free time at opportune hunting moments.

Just like the real world, everyone's schedules will have advantages and disadvantages. Maybe someone who works overnights will find it difficult to find a SCOB group but be home in time for some prime hunting while someone who works during the day will need to sleep before the hunts begin to dry out and become manageable. Everyone has their own situations that will cause them to have advantages or disadvantages in life; the same applies to the game.

I agree they should buff the daily marks and people should be able to profit from it. But making comments about no job/no life/"i'm paying for this" and so on and so forth are silly. In a game that is always running every moment of every day with thousands of players who lead different lives, expecting equality because you pay an entry fee is silly.

Just like how the guy who works late evenings/overnights may never progress in SCOB, someone who works 8-5 and needs to sleep by 12 may never get the seals at the speed they want. Just need to make the best of the time you have and not complain that others are getting more or less than you in a video game.

[Dude]

50 a day would be nice, that would really make it worth it. I still grab them and do them if i am in an area, but rarely grab it every day.

I feel like 30 will be the number though.

[PixelPirate]

Anything is better than the current state of things. The zergfest hoard party is making just about anything in public zones unbearable. It used to be the RMT's that made us turn /shout off, now it's the Hunt System and the endless bickering/trolling. Those of us who don't want to cheat (AppRadar) or rely on those who are cheating, need an alternative. This hunt system is the biggest blunder Yoshida and Co. have made yet.

[indira]

soon your gear will be garbage and all this grinding will reset.