Hunt Seals getting raised?

[Malamasala]

I want more casual focus where you get a huge boost to points for doing something a few times. But allow others who are 24/7 grinding to keep getting more by killing things all the time. Because I'm never envious of people who play all day, but I do hate when I see that my slow pace will get me an armor set in 6 months or so.

[R1dder]

I really dislike the suggestions to adapt this game to casual players. Like every other mmo, hardcore players work hard to get the best gear, and casual players... work over
time to reach their goal. You have to take a look at the weekly bills. They do actually give you a decent amount of seals. You kill a B rank (worth 5 seals) and you get a 20
seal bonus in addition to the 5 seals. That is the same as killing 5 B ranks. How can you complain?

Even spending 1-2 hours in a hunt group you can pretty quickly get another 100 seals (or more depending on linkshells). Boosting the bill rewards makes little sense to me tbh.
If you want a bonus they can throw in some gil.

[Nukocafe]

Like every other mmo, hardcore players work hard to get the best gear, and casual players... work over
time to reach their goal.

It's such hard work to teleport into coordinates your giant link shell gives you and zerg the monster all day instead of being at work! All those people at work? Pft! They don't work hard at all! Those lazy bums! How dare they try to get some gear in a game they pay money for!

[R1dder]

It's such hard work to teleport into coordinates your giant link shell gives you and zerg the monster all day instead of being at work! All those people at work? Pft! They don't work hard at all! Those lazy bums! How dare they try to get some gear in a game they pay money for!

At least it's time consuming and requires some effort rather than begging the devs to up the rewards because ppl think it's too much work.
What does "in a game they pay money for" to do with anything?? It's for them to keep the servers going, expand the content etc. You can't expect
them to bow to your will because you pay a fee.

[Nukocafe]

You can't expect
them to bow to your will because you pay a fee.

Wow that's funny, last I recalled I am supposed to get what I pay for. If I didn't, I wouldn't pay for anything and wouldn't need to work an earn money!
While I agree hunts require time, they certainly do not require effort. Only 1 person has to "put effort" into tracking his excel spreadsheet for spawn times and only 1 guy has to "put effort" to call out the coordinates for the zerg to come and beat the monster in 10 seconds.

Everyone who pays money for this game is entitled to the same access to rewards as anyone else. Just because you have more time on your hands doesn't make you "more deserving" of a reward. The only true rewards which require "effort" are things you get from coil because those require time, practice and coordination to earn.

[Blackweaver]

At least it's time consuming and requires some effort rather than begging the devs to up the rewards because ppl think it's too much work.
What does "in a game they pay money for" to do with anything?? It's for them to keep the servers going, expand the content etc. You can't expect
them to bow to your will because you pay a fee.

When it comes to dailies, the rewards ARE too low. Even the developers acknowledge this. In fact from their live letter, I don't think they intended people to farm elite marks as they are right now. As it stands, daily marks really aren't worth the effort. You'd be looking at almost half the year if you do only the dailies, just to get 1 piece of the i70 gear. Elite hunts? On my server? Forget about it. People kill them the instant they get called out. Did a timer the other day. Guess how long the A rank lasted? 30 seconds. That's it. And what kind of atmosphere is this system breeding? gamer escape did an article with screen captures of the chat, and those are tame compared to what I see on my own server:

http://gamerescape.com/2014/07/16/ff...with-the-hunt/

[CYoung187]

At least it's time consuming and requires some effort rather than begging the devs to up the rewards because ppl think it's too much work.
What does "in a game they pay money for" to do with anything?? It's for them to keep the servers going, expand the/snip.

Elite targets take about just as much effort as the dailies. Let's not act like elite marks are some kind of hardcore content. Teleport to zone, spend 30 seconds killing, done. Dailies get one seal, elites get 20-50. This isn't about handing stuff to casuals, it is about balancing the methods to attain the rewards. I don't think it should be anywhere near what elite marks get, but one seal is pathetic. Hunts general are way too easy for everyone. Let the players that either don't have the system requirements to get to the elites or don't want to deal with the mess enjoy some of the content too.

I personally don't even touch the daily marks, they are a complete waste as it stands.

[Alukah]

At least it's time consuming and requires some effort rather than begging the devs to up the rewards because ppl think it's too much work.
What does "in a game they pay money for" to do with anything?? It's for them to keep the servers going, expand the content etc. You can't expect
them to bow to your will because you pay a fee.

What effort? Running to an A rank is not much different than running to a bunch of mobs and killing them in roughly the same amount of time, just that one of them give 20 seals, the other gives 1.

[Sonofbaldo]

It's such hard work to teleport into coordinates your giant link shell gives you and zerg the monster all day instead of being at work! All those people at work? Pft! They don't work hard at all! Those lazy bums! How dare they try to get some gear in a game they pay money for!

I agree the person worded it wrong but he is absolutely correct. If you play 20 hours a week, you should progress faster, possess more, and be better equipped. Why should somebody who plays 5 hours a week get everything at the same time as someone who plays 20? Do you go into work and leave after 2 hours and expect to be paid the same amount of money that day as the person that worked 8? Would you expect to get a raise or promotion over that person? No, unless you're not all there in the head.

I understand its unfortunate that some people have more free time than others but that's just too bad. Catering a game to a person who only has a handful of hours a week to play results in one thing...A game that is disgustingly easy. If you have a lot of different things you want to do in game, than prioritize what is more important and focus on that first. You cant cater to everyone and maintain a good product.

The problem with XIV is its core design is flawed. Once you hit level 50 there is literally nothing for you to do other than collect shinies for vanity. Each update to the game just adds more shinies to collect. They have a vanity system so the entire population doesn't walk around looking literally exactly the same in their way too easy to obtain gear. XI had a much better system. The core of the game could be accomplished with a basic set of reasonably attainable equipment. Anything beyond that you had to either log in a bunch of man hours or spend a ton of money. Obtaining items wasnt the sole purpose of the game like it is in XIV.

I do my best to maintain interest in XIV and it is challenging. I am an somewhat old gamer. At 33 I grew up playing games that were actually difficult. I could only imagine seeing XIV's population having to play Ultima Online and having to deal with the risk of getting player killed any time you left guarded territory and losing your stuff. The vast majority of them would lose their minds. Growing up with those games I look at XIV and its just soooo shockingly easy.

I know most people will say "Than dont play!" Well, it's hard to give up on MMO's when you've been playing them for nearly 20 years. The base concept of an MMO makes for an amazing experience. It just seems every generation we detach further and further from that experience. So currently XIV is the best of the worst so I play it and have as much fun as I can. I have my set goals, and when I reach them I will probably close my account. Sadly, the game is so easy that shouldn't take more than 3 or 4 months.

Shinies have never been my goal. I have always loved the content. I dont know why SE abandoned being story-based. I guess its more cost effective to make items than come up with interesting plot. I absolutely loved XI pre-2007. Nothing in XIV even comes close to scratching the surface of how fun Chains of Promothia was. It took even hardcore gamers longer to complete Chains of Promathia than it takes to complete XIV's entirety. To bring my rant full circle, it falls on this very attitude of people who put in 5 hours of gaming a week think they should obtain everything at the same time as someone who puts in 25 hours a week. It's absolutely ludicrous.

[Hik0]

I Why should somebody who plays 5 hours a week get everything at the same time as someone who plays 20? Do you go into work and leave after 2 hours and expect to be paid the same amount of money that day as the person that worked 8? .

total? no! per hour? yes!
do you think the guy who work 4* longer should be payed 4* more per hour (total 16* more)?
people asking increase in dailies reward don't ask to get as much seal as somoeone who spend several hour doing hnt but the same seals/hour rate.
Now 1h of hunting average more than one week of dailies that can take more than 1h/day !