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    A massively.com write up on why hunts are ruining this game

    http://massively.joystiq.com/2014/07...ts-are-broken/

    and reddit mirror

    http://www.reddit.com/r/ffxiv/commen...ts_are_broken/

    Didn't see it posted here so either it never got posted or didn't get the read it deserved.

    EDIT: The "ruining" is more or less my own words. Not the words of the author.
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    Last edited by Jubez187; 07-23-2014 at 03:41 PM.

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    I don't see what the big deal is. We are 2 and half months away from, most likely, ilvl 130 gear that will make hunts a lot less important. Anyone that is driven away from the game will return at the next major patch just like they always do. Let people who normally can't get the best gear feel like they have a chance.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ryans View Post
    I don't see what the big deal is. We are 2 and half months away from, most likely, ilvl 130 gear that will make hunts a lot less important. Anyone that is driven away from the game will return at the next major patch just like they always do. Let people who normally can't get the best gear feel like they have a chance.
    You assume they're not going to do more with a brand new currency they just added to the game? I see them adding the next round of upgrade-able items to it with 2.4
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    To say that the hunt needs re-balancing is a fair statement but saying that it's ruining the game is just exaggerating. There's always some problems with new content, but if it encourages people to play the game more then it's not entirely a bad thing.
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    LOL...
    It’s as if no one thought to double-check the numbers before setting all of this to live.
    ...well it is, from what I've heard, admittedly a feature that's been added as an afterthought. So to be honest, it's not even surprising.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Namasu View Post
    To say that the hunt needs re-balancing is a fair statement but saying that it's ruining the game is just exaggerating. There's always some problems with new content, but if it encourages people to play the game more then it's not entirely a bad thing.
    Getting 5 sands of time in one week. I say its pretty broken and ruins the game. People are already rocking full Elite GC set.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wolf_Gang View Post
    Getting 5 sands of time in one week. I say its pretty broken and ruins the game.
    By the time of 2.1, you could farm myth all day to gear out and be just as good as anyone who run the first binding coil (minus allagan weapons that were bumped to i95). It's a catch-up patch and the dev team always intend to give non-raiders more way to get oil and sand. Also, you are still limited by soldiery cap so it's not like you can go ham and full i110 for every single class.

    There's nothing surprising about it. It is a little bit "too good" but to claiming that it "ruins" the game is just a bit melodramatic don't you think?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ryans View Post
    Let people who normally can't get the best gear feel like they have a chance.
    If you "normally" can't get the best gear then you don't deserve it. And your logic never works, because the raiders will still flock to this content as they can get MUCH more oils/sands than they could in a 1 week lock out with 1 oil being rolled on by 8 players.

    Quote Originally Posted by Namasu View Post
    By the time of 2.1, you could farm myth all day to gear out and be just as good as anyone who run the first binding coil
    And this was implicitly admitted as a design flaw seeing as Soldiery is 100 and H.Allagan is 110. And before, the only way to get i110 Soldiery was Coil
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    Last edited by Jubez187; 07-23-2014 at 03:43 PM.

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    Hunt is something that you can't put minimal effort into and still get a lot out of. So many groups have people standing afk in a zone, waiting for a train to come by and following it, and then complain when they don't get enough credit cause the rest of their group didn't get there on time.

    There are websites and google docs that have the time of death per server. Ask for a link to one or ask what zones have open windows if you are unable to access the website yourself. If they say "I dunno. Pick a zone.", either pick a zone and hope for luck or leave and try to join a more organized group.

    As Namasu said; it can definitely be improved, but to say it's ruining the game is exaggerating.
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    No, it's not melodramatic. When one activity makes all the others pointless and obsolete, then it's actually doing a huge disservice to the game, especially when you spend a lot of time and effort to create content like Syrcus Tower and Ramuh EX that most ouf your user base is completely ignoring and will continue to do so. Hunts is just bad designed content, and in its current form it should have no place in such a high quality game.
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