A massively.com write up on why hunts are ruining this game

[Thayos]

The spreadsheet thing is really hilarious to me. Kind of takes the whole 'hunting' portion out of it, eh.

All the spreadsheet does is save me the trouble of keeping written notes myself, which was what I was doing before I found my server's spreadsheet.

It's the same as games now having maps, rather than gamers needing to use graph paper to map our own dungeons. Only we're still actually keeping track of our own NM progress... so it's actually a lot more old-school than meets the eye... only we can all share each other's work.

[Fendred]

Just a question, but what do you think keeps people who are not interested in BiS playing? If you find crafting, housing, and rep grinding lack the depth to hold your interest, than why would you think the rest of the community would be satisfied with that? The "you have your content, I have mine" argument goes out the window here because clearly anyone not raiding has little to do in the long term and any content provided to them is given as an afterthought.

[Kagari_Asuha]

Just a question, but what do you think keeps people who are not interested in BiS playing? If you find crafting, housing, and rep grinding lack the depth to hold your interest, than why would you think the rest of the community would be satisfied with that? The "you have your content, I have mine" argument goes out the window here because clearly anyone not raiding has little to do in the long term and any content provided to them is given as an afterthought.

Frankly there needs to be more raid content aside from one high tier (Coil) and one mid-tier (CT).

[Eissels]

Frankly there needs to be more raid content aside from one high tier (Coil) and one mid-tier (CT).

I'd like it if coil was expanded beyond four bosses and one set of gear for each job. :/

[Fendred]

Frankly there needs to be more raid content aside from one high tier (Coil) and one mid-tier (CT).

I agree, although over 13 years of MMOs has taught me that the secret to long term success is getting a community that supports one another and doesn't tear each other apart, which unfortunately end game raiding does not accomplish. The current form of open world content does it even worse, but that is due to Yoshi just throwing in some mechanics without much thought put behind them. Frankly, I think the leveling experience is somewhat to blame here, as it doesn't ramp up the difficulty nearly fast enough to build the core proficiencies needed to tackle hard content.

[Zarzak]

I agree, although over 13 years of MMOs has taught me that the secret to long term success is getting a community that supports one another and doesn't tear each other apart, which unfortunately end game raiding does not accomplish. The current form of open world content does it even worse, but that is due to Yoshi just throwing in some mechanics without much thought put behind them. Frankly, I think the leveling experience is somewhat to blame here, as it doesn't ramp up the difficulty nearly fast enough to build the core proficiencies needed to tackle hard content.

Most of the oldest popular MMOs all have extensive raid content. The ones that die in under a year tend to be overwhelmingly lacking of raid content. Personally I know a lot of people who are waiting out the expansion. If the raid content is still as limited as it is now will be going back to EQ.. or maybe XI.


I give them credit for having to make back their losses from the abomination that was XIV 1.0 but that has been done it is time to stop pandering to the lowest common denominator and give some attention to the people who stick around for years instead of sticking around until the next game releases (hi everyone who ran for Wildstar and are now talking about Destiny)


I agree the leveling experience did nothing to prepare people though. They followed the terrible trend WoW started with the "follow the glowing ! mark until your level cap!" which does nothing but tell me people can follow simple symbols and arrows.

[Buff_Archer]

What I hate about it is that it isn't even about the monster fights themselves, it's more like a retarded form of PVP. And if they wanted to implement Chocobo racing there are better ways to do that.

This is the equivalent of cramming a room full of people shoulder-to-shoulder and saying "We're going to release an ant in here a few times a day, and whoever can stomp on one gets $1000." People would be stomping all over each others' feet, pushing and shoving, arguing over which one stomped it first, etc. And whether or not people get a decent amount of money doing that they're going to have a miserable time in the process.

[Volsung]

Thread title is pretty misleading. They do need rebalancing, but "ruining" is
something else.

[Illya]

I like Massively for their news and information about MMOs but their opinion stuff is just like any other junk on the Internet.