Thread: 1.18: Wipe your tears and open your eyes!

Originally Posted by viion

OP do you honestly think people just go to fight a NM right away, using their old tactics, fail and think ZOMG BROKE instantly without trying to adjust, knowing its changed, and trying countless times? Its basic instinct to adjust.... This community isnt full of retards who cant tie their own shoelace.

and the fact is what you might think works on 1 mob, might not work on another, so you could be blasting through dungeons keeping hate, good for you, why does it work? Because dungeons have been optimized the crap out of with the new enmity and stuff. While every other mob wouldnt have been. Do you think they are going to spend days testing, optimizing and tweaking a couple of nms? Probably did non at all. Take Cacutars for example, they have almost zero hate gains. No matter how hard you try.

People complaining because they all trying different mobs that react differently and their complain should be more about how unbalanced enmity is in the greater sense. Its only balanced for new content.

Actually I recall cactuars having unusual hate patterns prior to 1.18. Different mobs have different hate patterns, yes. I was not saying that I am able to hold hate well in the dungeon and thus hate everywhere is stable. I was commenting that the enmity system is not broken. There are some topics relating to a few specific mobs that seem glitched even - which is a possibility sure. The target of my post is to the people who are, actually, arguing that the enmity system is broken, period. You say the dungeon has optimized enmity, yet a lot of people were arguing the Ogre has broken enmity.

And I also agree with Raim, telling your PT to not do anything for 30+ seconds is very stupid.

To each his own I suppose. I honestly do not see the big deal of such a simple, and very effective strategy. In actuality it may not even last 30 seconds. In fact I just came up with 30 seconds arbitrarily based on a vague memory of how long I estimated it to have taken. The idea is, do not start DPS on the big guy until the tank says he is comfortable with his hate first.

EDIT: Perhaps I should edit the quote in the main post to better reflect the actual message. The arbitrary number appears to be getting more attention than it should, effectively leading to the point of the strategy to be missed.