Please fix dresses!

[Anapingofness]

Amateurs always go for the breasteses.

Life is all about ass.

#datass

I hate to break it to you but we can't have a proper ass in this game because... reasons!
Reasons I say!!

So, you'll have to settle for bewbs.
Although, I do wish they'd plump up the butts a bit but since they aren't willing to fix the horrible clipping in game, they won't fix the flat behinds either. -_-;

[TeaTimeBear]

I hate to break it to you but we can't have a proper ass in this game because... reasons!
Reasons I say!!

So, you'll have to settle for bewbs.
Although, I do wish they'd plump up the butts a bit but since they aren't willing to fix the horrible clipping in game, they won't fix the flat behinds either. -_-;

Hey now.. I actually like your butt. And mine as well! ROEBUTTSftw!

[Eekiki]

I hate to break it to you but we can't have a proper ass in this game because... reasons!
Reasons I say!!

Fortunately, some of the butt-flatness was due to the awkward pelvic tilt of the models' idle poses. /changepose marginally fixes that in some cases.

[Anapingofness]

Hey now.. I actually like your butt. And mine as well! ROEBUTTSftw!

;________________________________; you spoil me... -feeds Belle cookies- ROEBUTTSFTW!!

Nevertheless.... behold!

Fortunately, some of the butt-flatness was due to the awkward pelvic tilt of the models' idle poses. /changepose marginally fixes that in some cases.

I honestly think it's because of the normals they've used.
From the direct back view the behind looks decent enough, 3/4 starts to show some of the flatness, by the time you go into full profile it's completely flat.
I could be wrong though... o.o;;
And if it is because of the weird pelvic tilt then there isn't much to be done D=

[Yurimi]

To be fair a lot of people wanted to be able to dye those sets. I'm sure some people also didn't appreciate running [insert dungeon here] 30 times just to obtain [insert set name here] pieces. They could have added them all as level 1 items (see: colosseum gear), but I think they opted to kill two birds with one stone and I don't really begrudge them for that.

I don't have an issue with them adding those models in again but using the excuse of we can't do this due to us focusing on adding a wide variety of models to the game as a reason for not fixing things when they are clearly reusing models constantly with a different skin or color is what my problem is

[Phenidate]

So lets try this.

There are pieces of gear that cause fewer clipping issues than others, it's possible with the game engine, but not every piece is created using the same correct dimensions/physics/design. Share the gear that should be used as a basis for what works. Reply to this post with examples of long clothing, high collars etc.

Does it have less clipping? Does it not clip at all? Does it look good while standing in a breeze. Does it not clip while doing common animations like running, walking or in combat? Mention it!

The idea here is that we tell the devs what we think works. They can take what they know from making these outfits that DO work, and use that to continue making a bunch of gear that works moving forward.

Note what race you used the outfit on, talk about the name of the item or set, and what works about it. How these aspects can be applied to existing problem outfits and future gear.

For example.

On Lalafell: while the spring dress has clipping issues. The Elk pvp gear appears to have little to no issues with clipping with feet while running.
This seems to be because the back goes out more.
The Cashmere Robe has very little noticeable clipping, partly due to a shorter length and being a bit 'stiffer' with it's physics, so it doesn't droop through the feet like the spring skirt or crescent robe does.

[Evangela]

It seems like every games on the planet still have clipping issue no matter how powerful our hardware is nowadays. so annoying.

[Phenidate]

Camate: I'll answer the question. You want answers?
Grekumah: I think I'm entitled!
Camate: You want answers?!
Grekumah: I want the truth!
Camate: You can't handle the truth!

Yeah ok. Why even bother saying this? It's off topic and has very little relation to whats being discussed here.

I'll take it at face value. We can't handle the truth? Maybe we need some actual truth. A response from one of the people involved in designing outfits, we could decide if we are or aren't ready to handle the truths of whats going on. Pass this on to the team and see if they could provide some actual details - they're obviously working hard, maybe they can explain some things for us.

I've got another thread where we got a straight answer from one of the people involved with working on hotbar sets. We had some of the constraints they had to work with and why some things just weren't going to be possible explained to us.

What I've seen so far in this thread and the one referenced previously by Grekuman doesn't explain why a lot of new gear coming out; cosmetic outfits who's sole purpose in the game is to look nice mind you; why these outfits aren't up to par with gear that's come out previously. There are plenty of loose fitting outfits that go past the knees, robes and coats - not that much different from skirts and dresses and gowns, that have this issue solved or minimized.

What's making these newer pieces so special that they are immune to what made the other things work? Why can't these problems be solved with what worked in the past?

[Tupsi]

Yeah ok. Why even bother saying this? It's off topic and has very little relation to whats being discussed here.

I'll take it at face value. We can't handle the truth? Maybe we need some actual truth. A response from one of the people involved in designing outfits

See, and people wonder why the comm reps are usually "not responding" lol. Anyway, they told us during beta exactly why - To get gear out faster, which they said a few times before. Players wanted faster updates so in all actuality, they're simply giving us what we (not me) asked for.

[abzoluut]

See, and people wonder why the comm reps are usually "not responding" lol. Anyway, they told us during beta exactly why - To get gear out faster, which they said a few times before. Players wanted faster updates so in all actuality, they're simply giving us what we (not me) asked for.

I think what bothers people (incl me) is the "large variety" part when clearly this is not the case.

There are two things about the 1st comm rep's response. 1: he repeats the "large variety" (there is none, go back a few pages and you see me explaining exactly what is happening with gear). 2: new gear clips where earlier, similar released gear doesn't. Isn't that a bit odd? I understand corners need to be cut, but these are vicious shortcuts.