Bards need a buff

[Viridiana]

If you count in the contirbution to other classes from Foes we get higher. Without that nope a Bard won't get the 450 that easily, maybe in t8 with full BiS and a second Bard which handles the songs, otherwise no. never.

If you're going to count Foe damage toward BRD, you have to subtract out Disembowel damage and give it back to DRG. Otherwise you're just being inconsistent. Pretty sure that takes us back below 450, no?

[Askarya]

If you're going to count Foe damage toward BRD, you have to subtract out Disembowel damage and give it back to DRG. Otherwise you're just being inconsistent. Pretty sure that takes us back below 450, no?

Depends, if everyone is BiS and wouuld play perfectly we would still be over 450. A BRD is able to reach more than 400 if he doesn't need to sing paeon even without a DRG (assuming BiS gear ofc). Also assuming that you can use all your mp on Foes and don't need to sing anything else, the Boost for a BLM should be somewhere around 50-60 (you should theoretically be able to sing 3-4 times, 2 times voiced) maybe even a bit. Obviously you can also min-max this by trying to pair your voice with Buffs of the BLM etc.

[Ooshima]

I was pretty sceptical about 400+ DPS BRDs initially but after checking around with one of our FC's main team's BRD (Tonberry server 2nd T9 kill team), with ilvl110 BiS (High Allagan Bow) the max he can pull is 445, albiet that's a total 35% critical hit rate which is slightly higher than the average at around 24-25%

I'm running on Artemis Bow Novus (HA bow hasn't dropped for me) with two non BiS pieces (waiting for T8 pants and choker, never seen one for 10 weeks?) and 400 DPS is possible without DRG's debuff so far.

Just a point for all BRDs to note, when you compare numbers, compare it with similar amount of swings (aka number of hits) and with a similar critical hit rate. For example, compare parses over the same amount of minutes and seconds so that the number of attacks are within 3 hits of each other or so, and of course, comparable crit hit rate. No point comparing a parse where A's total average crit is 24% and the other chap is 35%.

[Askarya]

I'm running on Artemis Bow Novus (HA bow hasn't dropped for me) with two non BiS pieces (waiting for T8 pants and choker, never seen one for 10 weeks?)

I feel your pain. Although i have both of them on my alt -.-

Just a point for all BRDs to note, when you compare numbers, compare it with similar amount of swings (aka number of hits) and with a similar critical hit rate. For example, compare parses over the same amount of minutes and seconds so that the number of attacks are within 3 hits of each other or so, and of course, comparable crit hit rate. No point comparing a parse where A's total average crit is 24% and the other chap is 35%.

The Duration time... yes it should be around the same time, a different swing amount can come from fucking up your rotation OR from a different atkspeed on the weapon so you should still compare it if it has the same duration.
And you also should compare it if the critrate is different. Why? 1. That way you can see what could be the best and the worst case, this information isn't absolutely necessary but always nice to know. 2. Difference in critical hit rate. If those 2 have different gear (even if it's only 1 or 2 pieces) it can have a huge impact on the critrate.