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  1. #1
    Player
    Alcyon1's Avatar
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    Alcyon Eldara
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    Moogle
    Main Class
    Archer Lv 50
    AP gives 30 TP every 5 seconds.
    This is 30TP every 3 seconds. Wow, such BRD. So it will be one more action every 6s.
    At 0 TP, you can do one action every 3s and stay at 0TP. With Paeon, you can do one action every 2.5s (+20% DPS) and regen your TP by 15 every 3s. Let's take a example : a Bard, with 60 TP left, spamming "Straight Shot" during 60s.
    Without Paeon, he will attack 20 times (3s between attacks) and after this minute is still at 0TP.
    He starts by casting Paeon (3s) and keeps it during 6 ticks (18s).
    0-3s : no attack.
    3-20.5s : 7 attacks with -20%. He got 60+6*90 = 600TP and used 420. He's now at 180 TP.
    20.5-21s : he removes paeon during the GCD.
    21-58.5s : he attacks 15 times and has 0TP after his last attack.
    Total : 7*0.8+15 = 20.6 attacks (20 attacks at 80% potency + 5 attacks at full potency). This bard is doing more DPS.

    Next time you want to talk about "math", don't try to fool people with false informations.
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    Character
    Tracy Naetrem
    World
    Gilgamesh
    Main Class
    Archer Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Alcyon1 View Post
    random math.
    I want your AP. It is 5 seconds for every BRD in my FC.
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    Viridiana's Avatar
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    Aria Placida
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    Lamia
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    Ninja Lv 88
    Quote Originally Posted by Akesis View Post
    I want your AP. It is 5 seconds for every BRD in my FC.
    Pretty sure it's 3 seconds for everyone else in the game. . .
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    Alcyon1's Avatar
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    Alcyon Eldara
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    Moogle
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    Quote Originally Posted by Viridiana View Post
    Pretty sure it's 3 seconds for everyone else in the game. . .
    SE probably nerfed the BRD's in their FC.
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    Askarya Loha
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    Ragnarok
    Main Class
    Archer Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Alcyon1 View Post
    spamming "Straight Shot" during 60s.
    You mean Heavy shot, straight shot costs 70 tp :P

    Quote Originally Posted by Akesis View Post
    Just because you CAN use an ability, doesn't mean that you SHOULD use that ability. If you know that you run out of TP at the 3-4 min mark and the fight is going to be 6 mins.
    Yes let's just not use our dots in t8 because.. you know you will run out of tp. Or let's use them not how you should use them in a proper rotation. Because otherwise you would have the -20% dps for 1 min because of paeon... brilliant idea! oh wait...

    I think you should go and test your ideas before you talk about them with others >.<
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    Project Ziek
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    Exodus
    Main Class
    Arcanist Lv 90
    Derp bard detected.



    On a serious note, there's a reason Bards do the least amount of dps, as stated by a large number of people already.
    Bards are free to move and shoot as they please, and is probably the easiest job to learn. They are also the best support job in the game (although scholars can make a good case for that as well). They're the 2nd best dps job when it comes to AOE damage.
    In short, Bards are fine. Just learn how to play your job and stop complaining. A good bard can out DPS derpy monks and dragoons. As a Bard decked out in High Allagan gear, I honestly expected you to know better.
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    Last edited by Danbo05; 07-23-2014 at 07:41 AM.

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    Noctis Umbra
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    Excalibur
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    Pugilist Lv 50
    ITT: Misinformed BRD employs less-than-best practices an demonstrates an incomplete knowledge of his/her job of choice during, and after, asking for a buff.

    BRD is perfectly fine as is. Ranged DPS with no positional requirements, immense mobility, effective multi-dotting, and effective AoE along with fantastic burst... it wouldn't even need to have access to a number of unique support buffs for party members to be considered balanced... yet it has even that.
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    Character
    Kaane Moka
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    Behemoth
    Main Class
    Arcanist Lv 60
    Brd needs Buff???No.
    Your playing skill for the class need to be buffed?? Yes.

    Brd class is literally /if <off CD> use ......How hard can it be?
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    Character
    Kagari Asuha
    World
    Ultros
    Main Class
    Archer Lv 60
    Give us higher single target damage.
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    Exstal's Avatar
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    Character
    Shichi Mamura
    World
    Behemoth
    Main Class
    Pugilist Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Kagari_Asuha View Post
    Give us higher single target damage.
    If you can get a reasonable explanation why this should happen. Give Bard higher single target, but simultaneously lower the effectiveness of their songs. See how Bard centric parties slowly fade of out existance for other DPS.
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