Bards need a buff

[Pavise]

Just going to chime in since some bards clearly don't seem to understand what the archetype of a mobile all instant ability ranged spec brings to the table. You're going to have much more damage on high mobility fights due to being unable to cast, you suffer slightly less dps on patchwerk since your dps is balanced around your strength of sustaining a full rotation while running around and doing 360 no scopes.

Less of this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pDjRUNf91cc and more utilising your class properly .

[Yoninxi]

Lol are people really advertising their parses ON THE FORUMS?

[Velox]

Lol are people really advertising their parses ON THE FORUMS?

I know, it's great isn't it? Nothing like a good bait thread to get people banned.

[Zaero]

I know, it's great isn't it? Nothing like a good bait thread to get people banned.

Parsing. The real "member measuring" contest.

[Jandor]

4 of the Bards 5 abilities are support abilities.

Seems like a support job for a DPS class to me. Maybe you should ask for a DD job for the Archer class?

Edit: oops, referenced LB as a bard thing. Archer should have a DPS LB imho but it doesn't (yet.)

[Archer101]

4 of the Bards 5 abilities are support abilities and they have the healer LB.

Seems like a support job for a DPS class to me. Maybe you should ask for a DD job for the Archer class?

YES! Finally someone said it! I take bard strictly as support, it has DD capabilities but still low damage output. Now, my idea as always been that archer should get a full dd focused job. Ranger or something, that focus on damage 100% of the time. It's gonna be hard to pull though, balancing it with archers flexible movement but I'm pretty sure it can be done.

[LunarEmerald]

Bard is the most reliable dps job.

If the flank or rear is inaccessible: Dragoon greatly suffers and Monk takes a significant hit.

If the boss frequently becomes invulnerable or leaves the arena: Monk greatly suffers.

If you have to move around constantly to avoid mechanics: Black Mage greatly suffers and Summoner takes a hit

No matter the situation, Bard can always maintain great dps. There's no encounter in the game that's bad for Bard.

[Ephier]

Bards got nerfed in 2.1 for a reason, way too much in their kits. They are fine where they are at. If you want more damage go play a monk.

[Xisin]

You don't need anymore dps buffs, as people have stated several times in this thread parties are currently made or broken by bards. you have a guaranteed party slot and are probably (no you are) the most demanded dps by a large margin.

1. - Bard typically top dps while people are making progression and learning this is a pretty big deal, they are the least hurt by unexpected mechanics

2. - Requiem improves peoples dps by a large margin in some cases up to 40-50, paeon is nice to have for 8, you have the utllity to kite in turn 7 much like summoner does. Ballad, much like summoner res is there for when "Shit happens" its very useful. Paeon's usefulness further increases when Selene is around

3. - comparing apocatastasis and shitty blm virus to your songs is laughable

4. Bards have access to to probably the largest burst in the game, my static bard can outburst me on plenty of occasions, and for the record my highest parse on t8 so far has been 496 on blm - I'm not exactly low damage, and BLM is really good at burst in order to outburst my bard I have to hit multiple fire 3 crits at over 3k apiece, let me remind you that's with him singing battle foe. This is due to how many cds you have access to and the crazy buff uptime you have.

4. bard silence is useful in a plethora of situations including turn 9.

5. You are a bard, not a ranger your lucky Square even gave you guys a bow. (sometimes i wish they hadn't then maybe bards would do what they were picked up for - songs.) Your job description is hybrid support/dps your job is the only job in the game that does this well, smn has the 2nd most utility and it doesnt even come close to bard utility.

6. Even with all your utility you still pump out very respectable dps. its not like your hindered by any mechanic in the game except things that hard disable like titan goals. I'm all for lowering the damage penalty on your songs but no, you dont need potency buffs so you can relive 2.0 bard again.

7. Bards by their mere presence make drg a lot more appealing due to disembowel. Monks do not have a dps buddy to debuff for.

8. Bards by their cooperative presence make smn and blm high/top tier dps.

Honestly guys, I feel by the way most bards play or behave (burdened by asking for songs of any type - even foe) they think they have been tricked into playing a support class. (which to be fair i think some were lol)

Lol are people really advertising their parses ON THE FORUMS?

As for you you need to get over it, it's not like any of these people are actually using these numbers to harass someone. We are talking theory craft with parse numbers, if you dont like it then exit the dps forums, there is lots of parse talk here. Our number craft isnt out of spite, you wanting people punished for talking theory is however.

I know, it's great isn't it? Nothing like a good bait thread to get people banned.

See the above.

[Yoninxi]

stuff

where did I say I wanted people punished? I'll wait. I'm simply pointing out the fact that you guys are showing off your 3rd party parses which SE doesn't like ON THE FORUMS .