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  1. #1
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    Alcyon1's Avatar
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    Alcyon Eldara
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    Moogle
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    Archer Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Akesis View Post
    If you want to get technical. Which, I can see that you do. Lets look at all of the DD jobs....

    BRDs has 4 support abilities (Ballad, Paeon, Foe, Mantra). Can deal damage on the move. low multi target dps.
    SMN has 4 support abilities (Virus, Resurrection, Eye for an Eye, Physic(healing as a DD is supporting the raid)). Can deal damage on the move. High multi target dps (if they don't insta-die).
    BLM has 4 support abilities ( Virus, Eye for an Eye, Physic(healing as a DD is supporting the raid), Apocatastasis). They also have Atherial and can port to safety. Can deal damage on the move. High multi target dps.
    DRG has 2 support abilities (Disembowel, Mantra). Can deal damage on the move. Can also stun. Middle of the road Multi-target dps. extremely high single target dps.
    MNK has 2 support abilities (Mantra, Dragon Kick). Can deal damage on the move. Can also stun. Middle of the road Multi-target dps. extremely high single target dps.
    BRD can silence (hi T2), has a good burst (don't tell me the opposite) and can deal FULL DAMAGE on the move and is ranged. Seriously, telling us "BLM can deal damage on the move" is a big joke, you're making it sounds like if the fights where you need to move a lot doesn't change anything. Stuns are useless in the new coil.

    @Akesis : please, control their TP ? Seriously ?
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    Last edited by Alcyon1; 07-22-2014 at 05:43 AM.

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    Derek Hale
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    Ragnarok
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    Thaumaturge Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Akesis View Post
    They also have Atherial and can port to safety
    no they don't.
    They teleport near a party member.
    that doesn't always mean you get teleported to safety.

    Can deal damage on the move.
    LOLWUT.
    srsly.
    HEY LOOK I CAN CAST SCATHE WHILE I MOVE.
    I'M UNSTOPPABLE.
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    Lyrica_Ashtine's Avatar
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    Sadako Yamamura
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    Phoenix
    Main Class
    Marauder Lv 1
    Quote Originally Posted by Defteros View Post
    LOLWUT.
    srsly.
    HEY LOOK I CAN CAST SCATHE WHILE I MOVE.
    I'M UNSTOPPABLE.
    This just makes my day xD Let's make a new "BUFF SCATHE PLS" topic just like this one. Simply because BLM aren't top DPS by spamming Scathe - THE spell that allows them great mobility!
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    Character
    Miru Miru
    World
    Gungnir
    Main Class
    Pugilist Lv 60
    Stop whining, bards!

    Pros
    1) 1st DD slot that raid leaders fill
    2) cannot be replaced any non-bard DD
    3) takes least skill to play
    4) takes least skill to play well
    5) least expectation to deal any real DD
    6) Yoshi P (Wandering Minstrel) 's job in FFXIV
    7) highest average DPS - across diff types of fights (dummy type, high movement type, single mob, multi-mob, new raids, farm raids)

    Cons
    1) lowest Dps in dummy fights (but see pro #5)
    2) most boring to play
    3) useless LB
    4) AF look bad on male character
    5) sissy type of job
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    Quote Originally Posted by Akesis View Post
    If you want to get technical. Which, I can see that you do. Lets look at all of the DD jobs....

    BRDs has 4 support abilities (Ballad, Paeon, Foe, Mantra). Can deal damage on the move. low multi target dps.
    SMN has 4 support abilities (Virus, Resurrection, Eye for an Eye, Physic(healing as a DD is supporting the raid)). Can deal damage on the move. High multi target dps (if they don't insta-die).
    BLM has 4 support abilities ( Virus, Eye for an Eye, Physic(healing as a DD is supporting the raid), Apocatastasis).
    I main BLM and I've never used Physic during raiding, I suck
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    Harold Saxon
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    Odin
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    Thaumaturge Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by scarebearz View Post
    I main BLM and I've never used Physic during raiding, I suck
    He should really add the durations of each of those support abilities, and then compare it to the bard support abilities.
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    Spiritus Umbra
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    Hyperion
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    Dark Knight Lv 80
    These threads are so stupid, the dps with the most useful support utitlity is going to be the lowest dps class. One class has to be the lowest, if your so offended at being that one, then switch.
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    A'linhbo Taqah
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    Behemoth
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    Dragoon Lv 60
    Buff bards and make em root to shoot. Movement and damage? Nah.

    I main blm and titan ex is not fun when people start dps measuring.
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    Seravi Edalborez
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    Gladiator Lv 90
    It's not even the lowest by that big of a margin.
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    Character
    Tracy Naetrem
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    Gilgamesh
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    Archer Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by SeraviEdalborez View Post
    It's not even the lowest by that big of a margin.


    Not that big of a margin? Please show me a parse of a BRD competing with a 470-500 dps MNK. Too high? How about a 450-480 dps SMN. still too high? Now that BLM's got a buff, how about a 450+ dps BLM. no? I have seen parses of DRG's in the 450's + also. Please show me one (non photoshop) BRD pulling anywhere close to those kinds of numbers in a raid.

    45 dps+ is a HUGE margin.
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