Legit Way to FIX Hunts for Good

[Parz3val]

Perhaps you haven't experienced how ugly it's gotten with Hunts on some servers. But the system is frequently harmful to the playerbase.

Inequitable due to poor rendering.

Unfair due to reset-exploitation.

Cheapened by third-party cheating.

Poor contribution calculations heavily favoring "cheese tactics" (e.g. mass overhealing).

Finders frequently get cheated out of potentially 'deserved' credit due to cheats/trolls.

The list goes on and on.

[Parz3val]

Anyone have feedback with regards to the actual idea itself?

[RitsukoSonoda]

Another thing that would "fix" hunts is these hunt linkshells indentifying the maybe 5-10 ppl that actually scout for marks then kicking all the leeches that just sit around and wait for coords to get posted.

If you actively run zones for marks you tend to see maybe the same 30 ppl doing the same at any given time yet when a mark is found suddenly 80-500 ppl are running to the location and it tends to be these ppl that just wait for coordinates that pull early cause they pull it the moment they get there.

Also the load priority thing they said they did for S rank marks doesn't seem to be working as they are still getting clipped off screens due to model limit and said priority setting should be placed on all elite marks not just the S rank.

I also think these elite marks need to be beefed up more so that mindless swarming will just result in mass death.

[Indervyne]

Ever since the hot fix I haven't been able to see an S rank at all. As a tank I don't have any non target aoes except steel cyclone. Best I can do is Infuriate> Steel Cyclone and pray I hit the mark to only get 5 seals from an S rank.

Resets I'm fine with for now since they act as the invulnerability till me or my party members can make it after some troll comes along.

As for HP they need to raise it even more. Id rather spend 10mins fighting a B rank solo then .25 secs from a horde of players. S ranks need to be beefed up to near Odin/Behe level.

[Cherie]

I did some research back in to the history of the earth and found out something interesting. The earth had notorious monsters at one time too called: dinosaurs. However, the only way that people were able to exist on this planet without a lot of trouble was for them to have been dealt with (IE: "fixed"). This was done by a large meteor striking the earth according to most scientists. This meteor wiped them all out allowing people to live peacefully.

Therefore, to solve this hunt problem, Dalmund should fall from the sky again.

[Brine_Gildchaff]

How about this?
Instead of making the mob invulnerable, it locks the mob's aggro table. Once a "finder's tag" has been established, as long as the finder remains nearby (up to, say, 2-3 minutes) nobody but the finder and his party can get aggro on the mob. Applying a finder tag could also potentially boost contribution or even reward a bonus seal or two as a reward for doing the legwork to find the mob.
The trade-off: using a finder's tag is forcibly macro'd to the command "/s Mark found! <t> <pos>" and the "immune to aggro" status is removed immediately upon any member of the finder's party attacking the mob. In other words, once it's pulled it's fair game.

[Parz3val]

Tying it to the aggro table is fascinating

[TheUltimate3]

Isn't this just an elaborate way to say "we should use a tagging system"?

[Parz3val]

Isn't this just an elaborate way to say "we should use a tagging system"?

Fleshed out, rather. But sort of, yes.

Had I simply said 'tagging system', SE might probably have the bright idea to make NM's exclusive to parties.

I don't think anybody wants that.

[TheUltimate3]

Fleshed out, rather. But sort of, yes.

Had I simply said 'tagging system', SE might probably have the bright idea to make NM's exclusive to parties.

I don't think anybody wants that.

Truth be told, I fail to see a difference. With the "tagging" gives you minute to get there, 4-5 minutes immunity preventing anyone else from tagging it, and guarantees the tagger will get full credit, it basically takes the 1st come, first served approach and gives it turbo engines.