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    Quote Originally Posted by Hippo View Post
    Ok my bad for on the pally part but I disagree that a DD should use oCD on cooldown. Do you use IR when you know that Nael is going to jump? Do you use BfB when you are assigned to mine duty and next set of mine is dropping 10s later? Are all fights so nicely scripted for monks such that the timing that an oCD becomes available is the best time to use that oCD?
    Now you're just playing dumb. Using CDs on CD is the same as using the ideal DRG or MNK rotations. Its the norm, and gives you the most DPS overall on a standard fight. Do you always use your rotation as its written? No. Exceptions (yes, exceptions) exist which force you to adapt. But I'll state it again...they are exceptions, not the rule. The vast majority of fights lasting long enough for you to be able to use CDs again don't have long enough breaks to force you to hold CDs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hippo View Post
    Ok my bad for on the pally part but I disagree that a DD should use oCD on cooldown. Do you use IR when you know that Nael is going to jump? Do you use BfB when you are assigned to mine duty and next set of mine is dropping 10s later? Are all fights so nicely scripted for monks such that the timing that an oCD becomes available is the best time to use that oCD?
    I agree with PArcher, don't be so ridiculously dumb, unreasonable, or behave like a child. I would like to ask if you save CD when you know that Nael will be there for the next 20s??? I hope not because otherwise, you are getting carried by your team in term of DPS.

    Do you need CD to kill those Bulb, Bee or w/e you name it? Yes and No. You save them when you know they are gonna appear soon, like in the next 5sec, and not if they more 60sec or more away. Are there absolute need to have CD to kill them? No. If without CD, you can not take them down, it is time to re-evaluate your DPS because I will say it straight: Your DPS is bad.... Gear better or learn to play better.
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    Last edited by LionKing; 07-23-2014 at 12:33 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hippo View Post
    T6/7: DDs who does not stop dps'ing even though Rafflesia hp is near 40% but spit is still long way to go; or during phase change at 60% and 35% hp for T7 boss
    There are only certain cases when "stop dps" command should be applied in those and it's a leader job to educate party and announce them. If you haven't got second honey - there are no reason to stop dps. Same with T7 where 1st phase shift can be managed by person who are in charge of cyclops by adjusting it's own dps on boss and second phase shift occur only when last add dies that makes it easy to control by leader.

    Quote Originally Posted by Hippo View Post
    T6/7: DDs who does not save any off CD abilities to burn down bulbs, bees or Lamia.
    You don't need CD to burn all three, and if you do you problems lies not in CDs of dps, but in low dps in general or lack of focus fire on them.

    Quote Originally Posted by Hippo View Post
    is the behaviour of a selfish DD
    Its DPS job, and they should be focused on it as much as possible unless they instructed otherwise.

    Quote Originally Posted by Hippo View Post
    Ok my bad for on the pally part but I disagree that a DD should use oCD on cooldown
    They should in general, unless there are some mechanics that force you postpone Cd activations. It's like 90% of time they should be activated on cooldown, and some special cases (like Nael jumps) where you should know timings of inactivity windows and plan CD accordingly.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hippo View Post
    Ok my bad for on the pally part but I disagree that a DD should use oCD on cooldown. Do you use IR when you know that Nael is going to jump? Do you use BfB when you are assigned to mine duty and next set of mine is dropping 10s later?
    Of course not. These are common sense items. You obviously know what he meant and you are trolling.

    If not, (that you actually need someone to tell you not to pop CD on CD when boss is gonna leave the arena few secs later), you should consider if you should play this game.
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