Adding fuel to the fire, Summoner's future

[Estevo]

How is that even relevant to the the guy you quoted ? It's clearly obvious that the ideas thrown around don't even take balance as a whole in consideration.

It's relevant because all I'm asking for are some compromises to give the summoner some more intriguing design, befitting of a "FINAL FANTASY title", and they don't mind us asking. So why are you so against people asking for things, when that's all it is. I'm not begging for it, it's simply my feedback on the situation.

Changing the game based on balance is like playing it safe, you won't do terrible, but you won't do great either. It's obvious that the entire design of summoner is playing it safe, since it works exactly like other MMO pets, and has the feel of them too (over the top tiny pets, little actual focus on the pets), it could simply be much more interesting, just go look at my original post on this thread to see my idea of it, if it changes for the better of progression later, then all is well, but without that in mind, the rework ideas are my opinion. You seem to be against ideas that are "thrown around" when the ideas that are thrown around are what become the most creative, of course balance is not considered, and it shouldn't be until a clear image is formed.

This really shouldn't be something I argue about, all it is are my ideas on how to improve the experience! There aren't any ulterior motives behind it, promise.

[Razard]

Changing the game based on balance is like playing it safe, you won't do terrible, but you won't do great either.

Can't tell if you're serious.

[Dwill]

Changing the game based on balance is like playing it safe, you won't do terrible, but you won't do great either.

Balance is a requirement in MMOs, not an option. Forgo it and you're in for a world of disaster. People that ignore balance and throw around random ideas is one major reason as to why developers don't even consider ideas like yours. They aren't always doing the best job at it but it sure beats the unbalanced ideas around here.

City of Villains. At the very least, it's closer to FFXIV than FFXI in terms of combat.

City of Villians Mastermind is a great example of what a pet class should be.

A game that hasn't been shutdown (for financial reasons no less) would be a much better example.

[Spellbinder]

A game that hasn't been shutdown (for financial reasons no less) would be a much better example.

Yes, this is true. But I don't jump from MMO to MMO to MMO like some people do, so the pool I have to draw from is limited. There are no "action-rpg" style MMO's that I've played in recent memory that have a pet class other than that one. You yourself have even stated that you know of no MMO's that offer that type of pet gameplay, so it just goes to show that MMOs with capable pet classes (action-rpg style anyway) are far and few between.

[Dwill]

Yes, this is true. But I don't jump from MMO to MMO to MMO like some people do, so the pool I have to draw from is limited. There are no "action-rpg" style MMO's that I've played in recent memory that have a pet class other than that one. You yourself have even stated that you know of no MMO's that offer that type of pet gameplay, so it just goes to show that MMOs with capable pet classes (action-rpg style anyway) are far and few between.

Yes they are far and few between because the balance issues that comes with pet classes are glaringly obvious. While I agree with you that certain QoL of life changes could be made to pet in this game, hoping for a rework of the entire pet system for a few people that don't even seem to know what they want in the first place nor can grasp that each Final Fantasy have their different take on what a Summoner can do.

Since plenty of people like the job as is, Square Enix would have to take a huge risk by changing something that actually works right now for what's nothing more than limited gains.

[Spellbinder]

Yes they are far and few between because the balance issues that comes with pet classes are glaringly obvious. While I agree with you that certain QoL of life changes could be made to pet in this game, hoping for a rework of the entire pet system for a few people that don't even seem to know what they want in the first place nor can grasp that each Final Fantasy have their different take on what a Summoner can do.

Since plenty of people like the job as is, Square Enix would have to take a huge risk by changing something that actually works right now for what's nothing more than limited gains.

I agree with you completely. Just to be clear though, I didn't come in here advocating sweeping changes to rework Summoner, nor have I in the previous thread. The poster I quoted asked a question, and I was simply attempting to offer an answer. And though I did offer an answer, as I said in the previous thread, a pet class of that type would never, ever, be implemented in this game.

[Dwill]

I agree with you completely. Just to be clear though, I didn't come in here advocating sweeping changes to rework Summoner, nor have I in the previous thread. The poster I quoted asked a question, and I was simply attempting to offer an answer. And though I did offer an answer, as I said in the previous thread, a pet class of that type would never, ever, be implemented in this game.

I know you're intention were particularly good. My answer was just in the context of the post to which you quoted.