a pretty serious question

[Tupsi]

I thought you said this was a serious question...

What I'm thinking, since unless the world is Vanadiel, it's kind of impossible to be playing a sequel where the world is completely different. I mean, when we played Resident Evil 2 there were plenty to link back to Resident Evil 1.

The NM system of FFXI was utter crap.

Current NM system in FFXI:

Voidwatch NM - Popped.
Walk of Echos - Prespawned NMs based on the conflux you go into.
Quest based NMs - Majority are popped or on 1-5 minute respawn timers, you also gain full credit being in the party and in exp range.
ZNM - Popped tiers of NM.
Most regular world NMs - Drops R/E version of now crafted items or items that drop in BCNM type arenas.
Fracture - Popped NMs or you go inside of their domain.

I don't see how that's utter crap, as you say.

[Gilthas]

Current NM system in FFXI:

Voidwatch NM - Popped.
Walk of Echos - Prespawned NMs based on the conflux you go into.
Quest based NMs - Majority are popped or on 1-5 minute respawn timers, you also gain full credit being in the party and in exp range.
ZNM - Popped tiers of NM.
Most regular world NMs - Drops R/E version of now crafted items or items that drop in BCNM type arenas.
Fracture - Popped NMs or you go inside of their domain.

I don't see how that's utter crap, as you say.

We've danced this dance before. You know fully well that when people ask for the FFXI NMs they aren't asking for popped NMs, but asking for camping for hours and a claim system. And yes, that IS utter crap because instead of actually playing the game I'm stuck in a zone waiting for something to pop.

[Tupsi]

You know fully well that when people ask for the FFXI NMs they aren't asking for popped NMs, but asking for camping for hours and a claim system. And yes, that IS utter crap because instead of actually playing the game I'm stuck in a zone waiting for something to pop.

See, that's where the disconnect is: Most people who played XI likely played it up to and through Abyssea prior to XIV as Abyssea was 2009 content, long after XI moved to Popped NMs for most systems. While like or hate Abyssea, it's when XI started changing even more, so when people speak of XI prior to it, they don't always mean "free roam" NMs, because at least since late 2005 things changed past that aside land kings. Most rare items even moved to BCNM/KSNMs at that point. You're just speaking as if no one is talking about the improved systems that even existed in XI since not even XI largely uses a 'free roam' system for NMs that matter anymore.

[Gilthas]

stuff

You have a really bad habit of ignoring the context of posts.

The guy was saying that the NM system of FFXI worked because it has a claim/credit system, which obviously means that he's talking about non-popped NMs.

[Renik]

You have a really bad habit of ignoring the context of posts.
The guy was saying that the NM system of FFXI worked because it has a claim/credit system, which obviously means that he's talking about non-popped NMs.

Tupsi explained it well, there were popped NMs even before abyssea, you had roaming and popped NMs, if you needed or wanted gear from an NM you could hunt it or make gil to buy it, or you could just get different gear from another source.

The ffxi NM system worked because it was challenging, competitive and not mandatory, of course this system can't work in FFXIV, but it's not because it's outdated or boring, it's just because this game has some serious limitations to introduce it.

[Enkidoh]

You have a really bad habit of ignoring the context of posts.

The guy was saying that the NM system of FFXI worked because it has a claim/credit system, which obviously means that he's talking about non-popped NMs.

Gilthas, I don't know why you're trying to talk sense into these people, because they're quite frankly just players who have been obviously tempered by Ffeleven, the Primal of bad game design. ><