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    Jasott's Avatar
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    Hawu'to Rakarrak
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    Archers/Bard and PvP

    I get that PHYSICAL attacks interrupt caster cast times to make up for their power. But when an Archer/Bard can just make potshots at you from a distance with RANGED attacks it shouldn't be interrupting. They should experience the same problem as casters, since it would be rather hard to shoot an arrow at your target if you're getting hit left and right with light explosives and punches.
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    Cyrille Ashfall
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    Archer Lv 60
    How about no. Learn to use equanimity and your other PvP skills.
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    Vittorino Saggio
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    honestly; it's a stupid mechanic across the board imo. Nonetheless the only thing I would recommend to negate BRD's being cockroaches would be to simple strip the range debuff from them and solely implement "If a BRD moves while attacking there dmg output is reduced."
    Their mobility with sustainable dps is outlandish. But they don't compute to what a BLM can do. BLM can 3 shot a fairy a$$ BRD in 4 seconds flat.

    Just a thought.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shinlolz View Post
    How about no. Learn to use equanimity and your other PvP skills.
    If Equanimity was perhaps on a 1 minute timer, I could bite my tongue about BRDs, buts it's so true what the OP is saying. As a player that only plays caster jobs it's very annoying, that's why I make sure and destroy BRDs ASAP! As SMN and BLM I can usually knock em out a lot quicker than they can. However, if equanimity is down and a BRD is on me, I'm pretty much left with instant cast spells and Swiftcast every minute. Equanimity on a 1 min timer would be an excellent fix imo. There's no need to nerf BRD.
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    Last edited by Rydia13; 07-21-2014 at 09:11 PM.

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    Leinas Kroma
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    Armorer Lv 90
    Equanimity and Surecast can help, but they won't last forever,
    instead Galvanize and stonekin can be continuosly applied.
    As SCH in Frontline I always try to heal with Adloquoium because
    if u receive 0 damage u won't be interrupted.

    I know it's annoying but without this nerf caster would be really too strong.
    Imagine 3 dots and Bane always applied + Fester, or 3 consecutive Flare.

    If i can suggest something ask to your healer to pre-protect during dead time,
    so at beginning as SUMM u can cast 3 Dot without interruption, use contagion
    and Bane, after your Fester is and instat skill, and remember that your egi can
    continuosly stalker a mage too xD
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    Thera Logo
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    Sargatanas
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    Lancer Lv 52
    Roll with a DRG to tear those bards up
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    Leinas Kroma
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    Anyway an "adjustment" that i would suggest is "rebalance dodge in PvP" so Blind would be effective and your Accuracy point wouldn't be wasted,
    in this way any dodged attack will allow u to cast a spell without interruption.
    (also a PvP skill for caster like Featherfoot would be nice, obviously with a great Recst time, as any PvP skill)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Geologo View Post
    Anyway an "adjustment" that i would suggest is "rebalance dodge in PvP" so Blind would be effective and your Accuracy point wouldn't be wasted,
    in this way any dodged attack will allow u to cast a spell without interruption.
    (also a PvP skill for caster like Featherfoot would be nice, obviously with a great Recst time, as any PvP skill)
    I would loooooooooove for Blind to be more effective in PvP. That'll make Ruin II so great lol

    SMN is probably the most defenseless job by itself. In PvE we have Titan but in PvP we're pretty much limited to Swiftcast Tri-Disaster lol and seeing as how our main issue is BRD, Bind hardly helps. I say they fix our Miasmas and let disease work its magic. For SMN only, not SCH. That'd be a tad broken lol
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    Last edited by Rydia13; 07-22-2014 at 01:25 AM.

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    Lisa Summers
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    Faerie
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    Archer Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Rydia13 View Post
    I would loooooooooove for Blind to be more effective in PvP. That'll make Ruin II so great lol

    SMN is probably the most defenseless job by itself. In PvE we have Titan but in PvP we're pretty much limited to Swiftcast Tri-Disaster lol and seeing as how our main issue is BRD, Bind hardly helps. I say they fix our Miasmas and let disease work its magic. For SMN only, not SCH. That'd be a tad broken lol
    Not sure if serious. SMN have the most deadly burst in pvp if played right. As for Bard interrupting casters, it is as expected since we are your counter class. Just learn to CC and use equanimity correctly and not just roflfacetank a bard with full c/ds up.
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    Hawu'to Rakarrak
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    Red Mage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Clessx View Post
    Not sure if serious. SMN have the most deadly burst in pvp if played right. As for Bard interrupting casters, it is as expected since we are your counter class. Just learn to CC and use equanimity correctly and not just roflfacetank a bard with full c/ds up.
    Yes if left alone, but melee know to keep casters locked down. So even if a caster were to pop Equanimity, at most 15s for uninterrupted that doesn't reset at death with a minimum CD of 3m, Swiftcast, a instant casting any cast with a cast time, but only 1 cast with a 1m CD, and surecast, an uninterruptable cast with a CD of 30s that would be about 3 Swiftcasts, and 6 Surecasts, on top of normal instant-casts, which for summoner or Bio, Energy Drain, Fester (if you use Swift and Sure for Miasma and Bio) and PvP skills which do minimal damage, and Miasma 2 an aoe, before the next 15s non-interrupt period...
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