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    Myrhn Shirayuki
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    Why does mages have to choose between 4 stats and other just 3

    Simple question and want to know what the comunity thinks. Why does mages, SCH/WMH/SMN/BLM, have to choose between PIE, DET, SS, or CRIT while melee just choose between DET, CRIT and SS. Why not add some gear for melee that dont have VIT?
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    I love the official forums, they tell you to use the search for thread about what you wanted to talk but when you use it they judge for necro a thread.


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    Faedra Braddock
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    Because being melee is unforgiving enough already. :L
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    Gilraen Bior
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    Yeah, I have to agree, mages don't have to be in the enemy's face near as much as melees. And you seem to have your stats mixed. Melees don't have to worry much about skill speed at all, but without accuracy they may as well just stand there talking. I do agree with the crit and determination, though.
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    Temisu Namisu
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    Kujata
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    Quote Originally Posted by Myrhn View Post
    Simple question and want to know what the comunity thinks. Why does mages, SCH/WMH/SMN/BLM, have to choose between PIE, DET, SS, or CRIT while melee just choose between DET, CRIT and SS. Why not add some gear for melee that dont have VIT?
    All classes get VIT on their weapons and left side armour, and for any NQ crafted/common gear is at it's maximum. Knowing how much HP a particular job has based on expected entry requirements, allows battles to be designed like they are.

    PIE, on the other hand, is only present on certain armours for WHM and SCH, and is something that is optional. For some, PIE can be a decent stat choice if they feel they may need more MP, which makes them less likely to need Ballad support (and if you don't have a Bard for that, your MP is precious).
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    Attackat Muaddib
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    Quote Originally Posted by Myrhn View Post
    Why does mages, SCH/WMH/SMN/BLM, have to choose between PIE, DET, SS, or CRIT while melee just choose between DET, CRIT and SS. Why not add some gear for melee that dont have VIT?
    Hmm, I always choose just one stat per class/job, that one stat that your class trait enhances.
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    Shichi Mamura
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    We get to choose another main stat, and they don't get to choose.
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    Last edited by Exstal; 07-21-2014 at 12:14 PM.

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    Your Character
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    Blue Mage Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Myrhn View Post
    Simple question and want to know what the comunity thinks. Why does mages, SCH/WMH/SMN/BLM, have to choose between PIE, DET, SS, or CRIT while melee just choose between DET, CRIT and SS. Why not add some gear for melee that dont have VIT?
    PIE is not on caster gear. So they fit the same mold as melee.
    Healers are a whole different bracket of balancing from DPS and the system as it stands is well-balanced.
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    Mithrandir Olorin
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    Healers seldom worry about acc, and mage dps seldom worry about pie, so it's still 3 stats to "worry" about on any given role
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    Violet Baudelaire
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    I always choose pie. Even as a melee.
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    I think it's because the "Linear Warriors, Quadratic Wizards" trope is in effect.
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