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    Fixing "The Hunt"

    Dear Battle Designers or whatever team has any sort of input into designing battle content:

    Take a leaf from 90% of the rest of the battle content you've designed for this game and allow the Hunts to be instanced. Just found Nahn on Hyperion, shouted position for those in the area, saw folks gather around, saying to hold it and one smart-arse PLD decides to pull it, inciting everyone to just destroy the mob. By making them instanced, you could keep the cooldowns active like you have between possible spawns, keeping the content gated while getting rid of the potential for trolling by the playerbase.

    For example:

    B Ranks could be able to be challenged every 30 minutes by up to 4 players, starting at your Grand Company, with a chance to drop an Elite Mark Rank A bait for the same zone (Maybe it's a different name for each enemy) at a medium drop rate. Said A Ranks will be able to be challenged by a full party, on average, every 2-3 hours, and will have a fairly low chance to drop an S Rank bait, who could be challenged by a more than one full party in an alliance-style setup similar to Crystal Tower content for the same zone, similar to B to A rank upgrade. To prevent bait hoarding, maybe have them expire on a daily cooldown, on the same reset timer as daily quests.

    As a result of this change, Allied Seals may be slightly easier or harder to come by as a whole, but individuals would be able to enjoy the content with their friends without worry of the community ruining the chances of it. When I refer to instancing in this context, I mean similar to Levequests, not requiring extra server infrastructure.
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    Last edited by Terasan; 07-21-2014 at 03:57 AM. Reason: 1k characters....

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    Nothing in your proposal is new, just use one of the countless threads about the same topic.
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    Not everything needs to be instanced to be fun. It's a hunt, not a petting zoo.
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    Levi Sukehiro
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    Fixing the Hunt... more like breaking it. there is enough instances..what dont ppl get about OPEN WORLD content?? and what dont ppl get about B-4man pt to bring down, A-8ppl and S multiple pts of 8.. SO WHAT IF PPL PULL.. its nice if they wait but they DONT have to.. stop complaining! As i said there is enough instanced things.. if you dont like open world content go back to your instances and leave ppl that like open world content alone
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    Quote Originally Posted by Platinum_Disco View Post
    Not everything needs to be instanced to be fun. It's a hunt, not a petting zoo.
    It's far from a hunt: you see the monster, you are kind enough to wait a bit, then someone pulls, 3 sec max, the zoo is gone to the next map.

    you get: 1 Allied Seal, 1 Myth, 1 Soldiery. Your mark isnt done for the week. You can't join their full party.

    So yeah, sad but instance would fix that. then again you are right, it won't be called a Hunt, just another.. easy trial.

    So what's your solution, SE?

    Cause we are trying to figure it out, and we can't agree and we can't edit the Code. You can.

    Thank you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KingOfAbyss View Post
    It's far from a hunt: you see the monster, you are kind enough to wait a bit, then someone pulls, 3 sec max, the zoo is gone to the next map.

    you get: 1 Allied Seal, 1 Myth, 1 Soldiery. Your mark isnt done for the week. You can't join their full party.

    So yeah, sad but instance would fix that. then again you are right, it won't be called a Hunt, just another.. easy trial.

    So what's your solution, SE?

    Cause we are trying to figure it out, and we can't agree and we can't edit the Code. You can.

    Thank you.
    if you're already at the mark you should be getting full credit - sounds like you're just salty. Again, it's a hunt, not a petting zoo. Open world content like this is meant to be done as a collaborative group effort, and in some situations, a competitive one. If you don't enjoy doing it then don't do it.
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    Fixing the hunt in 1 simple move;
    Give everyone who participated(i.e hit the monster) bill clearance, I don't care about the kill reward, all I want is the bill clearance.
    Keep the kill reward the way it is, idgaf.

    @Platinum_Disco; No, bad kitty. *spritz*
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    Waekswys Styrmwyn
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    It is frustrating when the weekly mark is B class and dies in 10 seconds or less, making the early pulling so bad. I suggest that the weekly mark have it's HP increased by a couple orders of magnitude to allow more people to make it. Instanced hunts are not a good idea.
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    Aislin Delhir
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    Quote Originally Posted by Waeksyn View Post
    It is frustrating when the weekly mark is B class and dies in 10 seconds or less, making the early pulling so bad. I suggest that the weekly mark have it's HP increased by a couple orders of magnitude to allow more people to make it. Instanced hunts are not a good idea.
    I think it's pretty funny that the bills are supposed to be for the "casuals" to "do it at their own pace", since it's those people who are perhaps LEAST likely to ever get the actual credit for the elite bill of the week. Hunts were clearly designed in some kind of a vacuum where no one designing them talked to anyone who has played an MMO with anything even remotely close to open world content. Surprising, since FFXIV team could have talked to FFXI team... Or played FFXI... Or read about FFXI. Didn't even need to leave their own company to see this coming.
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    Oh, another thread . Cap oils and sands at one a week, decrease rewards for markless hunts, and award seals from other activites. Problem solved.
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