why so mean?

[Seoulstar]

Because a lot of "noobs" don't listen to the advice given. So we've become jaded about giving wasted advice.

That and it's not difficult to use google or look around any wiki or forum for the game for about an hour to get semi-acquainted with most terminology.

So because some people don't listen..you just instantly insult a new person..? That's a terrible "excuse".

[SeraviEdalborez]

So because some people don't listen..you just instantly insult a new person..? That's a terrible "excuse".

I did not (intent to) directly insult. I was providing perspective.

My usual response to newbies performing poorly in-game is the same response they give me: total silence. I've heard the excuse that PS3/4 players don't say much because typing is a chore, but just... jump up and down if you hear me. Any response is better than knowing I've wasted my time and effort on a brick wall. I can count on one hand the number of times I have been given advice and have it been immediately followed. Advice was not unreasonable either. As simple as helping to clean up their rotation.

[Seoulstar]

I did not (intent to) directly insult. I was providing perspective.

My usual response to newbies performing poorly in-game is the same response they give me: total silence. I've heard the excuse that PS3/4 players don't say much because typing is a chore, but just... jump up and down if you hear me. Any response is better than knowing I've wasted my time and effort on a brick wall. I can count on one hand the number of times I have been given advice and have it been immediately followed. Advice was not unreasonable either. As simple as helping to clean up their rotation.

Oh..then I apologize for the misunderstanding.

[Kloe]

I think this is really just the nature of people. You will encounter jerks and you will encounter nice people. If you find that you're encountering the jerks more often, then joining a nice FC that you can do duty finder stuff with, makes it so you won't have to worry about it anymore. I rarely do DF things without my FC nowadays. Also something to note, when you use the duty finder, you are joining up with people from the pool of servers in your data center. So it's not just one server but multiple ones. This greatly increases the amount of players to pull from.

[Kaven]

So because some people don't listen..you just instantly insult a new person..? That's a terrible "excuse".

Don't think anyone with a mature sentiment would instantly insult someone new.


The premise of the thread is a life long MMO dilemma in which it can never be cured, 'Noobs/Newbs' how ever you want to label them will always be present in any community, you'll have a portion of the community that will do what they can when they happen upon them and the other half won't nor feel they want their own personal time being wasted by an an inexperienced player.

A lot of the hate derives from frustration mostly, I'd be lying if i didn't chuckle to myself on occasion after seeing a MNK try to DPS last boss in Tam-Tara continually thoughout the fight when quite clearly the words "INVUNERABLE" must have been spamming his screen.

The likes of PLD's spamming SB/RB and raging at DPS because they're losing aggro. Just some instances in which even after explaining I've had to /facepalm.

Quite clearly a lot of newer players do not invest their own time to read tooltips, if they did a high percentage of newer players with some form of learning curve would pick the game up relatively quickly.

It's a circle of appreciation in any MMO, if you're new, show willing and appreciation for other player's and the time they're investing in the group, then you will more often than not receive it back from the more experienced players. Speak up, tell them you're new, it avoids most altercations and if you're presented with advice that seems genuinely productive to how you can play, use it.

I personally have a lot of time for newer people, as someone stated we were all new to this game and all made mistakes at some point, I only find my patience wearing thin when it comes to higher level content and seeing people in full i90 / i100 gear that cannot play their class still or dodge things, (example- Duty roulette, Ifrit HM - DRGs/MNK spamming Leg Sweep / Steel Peak , players dying to IFrit's Dash etc , this is just a shortened example)

The game itself is probably one of the easiest's MMO's I've played in terms of mechanics and leniency to reaction and whilst like I mentioned I have time for newer players, I don't have time for Full Vendor geared players that repeatedly make mistakes or do not know how to utilize their class correctly. Unfortunately the game has bred these players due to the ease of access to gear, allowing newer players to pretty much gear their character in full i100 by just doing the main story and then farming 1 dungeon. They are then expected to perform to the standards of someone in that gear level and in a large number of cases are shown up to be otherwise.