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  1. #51
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    I play on the Midgard server. I have only ever had one person not be so nice. He wasn't mean but he just kept tanking instead of letting me do it. Other than that between the game and the forums everyone has been so helpful. I think if typing wasn't so hard on the PS4 without a USB keyboard maybe PS4 players would be more inclined to help others with a quick tip or two. I only recently got one and I'm glad I did.
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    INKD_NIKO's Avatar
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    Ni'lin Sakamoto
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    I do a lot of research while playing. I tend to keep to myself and not bother anyone. Not because I may mess up, but because I know I'm not skilled enough to take on many of the tasks a tank should already know how to do. I like to be confident when I help others or when I prove my worth. At the moment, I'm just working on getting better at the game and getting stronger. I have my tablet at my disposal for Google etc. if I have questions and I hold my own when I fight for myself. If you have to ask questions, be as courteous and try to ask someone who isn't running about but might be stationary. I found from other MMOs that people who are running are usually busy. Famfrit is a pretty quiet server and I have yet to encounter any ill. I wish you luck! Don't let others attitudes hinder your progress.
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    Don't pay attention to what SeraviEdalborez said "noobs" . Players like this are just showing how they feel about themselves.
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    Viva Diva
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    This is my very first mmo too! Some things that helped me:

    1. Get a USB keyboard. This is a social game and you need to communicate with people.
    2. Tell your group you are new and appreciate any tips. Explaining fights can take 30 seconds and prevent avoidable wipes. It's very frustrating to join a dungeon, see the new player notification and get silence when I ask who is new. I'm asking so I can help!
    3. Carefully read every skill description as you unlock it and ask questions to your friends on how they use those skills.
    4. Read the forums for tips on how to improve.
    5. Join a helpful free company and linkshells. They can run through dungeons your first time, discuss the game with you over chat, and help clear content.
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    http://dtguilds.com

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    I guess the answer to the question why people are mean in any kind of situation, environment, etc. is the same and was greatly put in an old (great one by the way!) movie.
    " -Why are you so polite?
    - for the same reason you aren't: it's the way I was brought up."

    Just don't bother with people who have bad attitude. You will have to suffer few minutes with them (even less if you kick them), while they have to spend the whole life with themselves!

    Regards,
    M
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  6. #56
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    Valia Rosa
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    Encountering someone's nasty attitude early in the game really affects the rest of your time in game (personal experience.) Lots of folks upstream have offered good suggestions. I will add a few things:

    As a new person, be patient when asking for help. To you, it may appear High Level Person isn't being to quick to answer but you may be the 4th person in ten minutes to ask for help.

    When in a dungeon, take a quick moment to say something like "I'm new to this boss, can I get a quick strat please?" It will help immensely to go with FC/LS friends who know in advance that you are new to the dungeon. Everyone will be more chill about it.

    It is VERY important that you learn your skills. Read up on your rotations on the class sub-forums here on the OF.

    If you need help with gear, ask for advice rather than asking for the items themselves. It can take crafters a while to make a set of gear if they generously offer. Never ask when it will be ready. =_=

    Pay it forward. If people help you out, in turn, go and help others.

    Good luck!
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    Raeanya Ashurke
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sadana View Post
    ...When in a dungeon, take a quick moment to say something like "I'm new to this boss, can I get a quick strat please?" It will help immensely to go with FC/LS friends who know in advance that you are new to the dungeon. Everyone will be more chill about it.
    ...
    ^^

    Even reading a guide online can casue issues if there are multiple ways to clear a boss. There are many examples, but one that comes to mind right away is Tam Tara HM. Some people like to pull the wedding party away from the group, and have the boss's target run to them. Other people like to just stack everyone together right on top of the boss and not move. It is always best practice at any level to take 2 minutes to go over the prefered strat before going in to avoid confusion.
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  8. #58
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    Y'kayah Tia
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    Quote Originally Posted by djnions View Post
    I think if typing wasn't so hard on the PS4 without a USB keyboard maybe PS4 players would be more inclined to help others with a quick tip or two.
    Even with a keyboard (which I really recommend everyone should have), giving tips can still be hard in a dungeon, unless you're the tank. The tank is the one to set the pace of a run, so the tank can stop to type out a message, and in most cases the group will wait for him/her to do so. For anyone else, trying to communicate all too often means letting the rest of the group run on ahead to the next area and fight without you.

    So a tip for tanks: It's a good idea for groups to stop a few moments both at the beginning of a dungeon, and again right before each boss fight. Even if you don't have something to say, it's a time when other players are likely to want to either ask or explain something. Give them time enough to do so.
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    Ashkendor Zahirr
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sadana View Post
    Encountering someone's nasty attitude early in the game really affects the rest of your time in game (personal experience.)
    Yes. Yes it does. I was afraid of Duty Finder for MONTHS because of some abusive players encountered early on. The only thing that kept me even playing this game was the fact that I had some RL friends playing with me.

    I always try to offer advice on everything. Today I was in a Lost City run with 3 players new to the instance. The tank was in Gallant gear, so he was pretty squishy but we took the pulls slow and it was no problem. We wiped once at the first boss, the second boss was a little slow, and we had three wipes at Diabolos. All three players were receptive to advice; one of them was helping me mark doors (I am just not very fast at it and the party had low dps so we needed three sets) and everyone was learning from each misstep and improving on the next attempt.
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    Vexa'ir Pheenraci
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    Being a returning "new player" myself I have yet to run into rude people, but I expect it sooner or later. No matter what game I have ever played, you always end up with those "types" that make your blood boil. Not really much we can do about it other than ignore or report. I think the general problem is folks are just in too much of a hurry and seem to be very selfish and they will take it out on you. Instead of helping another player or understanding they are new, the new player is hampering their progress.
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