why so mean?

[Caladius]

Let me try and nip this in the butt before it spirals.

Please don't classify yourself as a "noob", that term was created with intentions of being a label for those who are terrible at the game and have no will to learn or become skilled at it. You are willing to learn and accept all advice given to you. That in itself puts you FAR above that label and I would gladly help you out if i met you in game.

My rule is this: If i see you arent doing the best, I will give you some advice to help you out. If you ignore it or simply don't try it then I will normally consider that person a lost cause and move on. If I see a sign of improvement or at least an acknowledgement that you are trying (a simple "Thanks for the advice" or "I will give that shot!" will do) then I will continue to help that player out until the end of the dungeon.

[Caladius]

(Message 2/2 since character limit)

Players are impatient in this game and, unfortunately, the game itself has contributed to that downfall. Most of the content in XIV can be completed in 20 minutes or less (even most Coil groups, as we see enrage timers on some floors) leaving an extremely large majority of the player base receiving rewards in a very quick turn around. I don't believe being rude to new players is acceptable, but unfortunately speed is a large factor in a players priorities considering how the content has been played out by the community.

Hope this helps lighten your reaction to those players and makes it less of a headache. See you around =)

[Anapingofness]

@ OP and other new players.

Please, please, please don't be discouraged by the players who choose to be mean/spiteful/verbally abusive.
They are by far a very small but extremely vocal minority of the players in FFXIV. If you do encounter such people, report them for harassment ASAP and blacklist them if you can. Those people deserve to be punished.

I urge you to always let your group know when you are new to a fight or dungeon. You can let them know if you did any research on the dungeon or fight at that point as well. It will do more good than harm as other players will be able to help you out.
Equally as important is to acknowledge when someone gives you a piece of advice. Remember, we cannot read your mind and we do not know if you heard us or if you understand what we're trying to say. Likewise, if you do not want that advice then just respectfully decline it.

It is also discouraging on the side of experienced players when we feel as if our efforts are dismissed because of a lack of communication.

As others have said, try to find a good linkshell or a good free company, one that fits you. Although at least one person from Famfrit seems to have responded to this tread and it has been a good response. ^_^
Personally, I play most of the time on Goblin server. If you ever find yourself on it feel free to add me to your friendlist. I am always willing to help newbie players out. ^^

[Maza]

I've played several mmo's over the years and even though there are some azzhats in this game FFXI and FFXIV have had the most helpful freindly people of any I've played. I'm mostly a solo player but this game has more nice peeps than any I've seen

[Digital80]

My annoyances with noobs:
1) Most ask for something free. Money, bags, etc.
2) Before you spam chat for answers, search yourself.

These are just personal annoyances. I think you should earn things yourself. I will not turn down advice of something for free, but I will not ask for it either.

[Kiara1]

I love playing with new players, it's fun to explain everything and they are usually thankful and more chatty than someone who has done the dungeon 100times

[Katchii]

I'll help players who are new and actually want or ask for help.

I'll offer to help if I find you're doing something silly or wrong in an effort to improve your understanding of the games mechanics and your class skills.

People who blatantly refuse (not just ignore, but respond saying they don't want help) or respond with "screw you, I'll play how I want" get booted from the group and ignored..or if I'm the tank or healer; unprotected, unhealed and left for dead.

I'll help you help yourself, but if you willingly and purposely waste the time of me and those in my party....... t("t)

[Alice_89th]

I hate to be the one saying "google it" but...

I googled. A LOT.
This is my first MMO so like you I didn't know a lot of lingo and I just googled every single time I heard something I didn't know.

As for people being mean; just stay polite, don't get defensive.If someone keeps yelling at you simply stop answering, if you really can't take it anymore just leave and find a new group to do the content with. There is no need to let yourself be frustrated by someone who probably just had a bad day our ran into the same problem 15 times in a row who keeps verbally abusing you.

If you are trying, and doing your best there is nothing more you can do.

[Niwashi]

I hate to be the one saying "google it" but...

Lets assume a console player. They're new to the game at least and perhaps to MMOs, so something comes up they don't quite understand. Their options for figuring it out are:

A) Leave the game. Go to the next room. Power up the computer. Wait through its interminable boot sequence. Then they can try Googling something they may or may not have a good keyword for.

or

B) Ask in chat. Stay involved in the game. Perhaps spark a discussion. Maybe meet some friendly players on the server in the process.


Given that (A) leaves the game dead and silent, while (B) keeps some friendly (and potentially useful to other new players) conversations going, the player who chooses option (B) is doing far more to enhance everyone's game as well as their own.

Now, I'll admit that occasionally Google has its place. If you're looking for an in-depth player guide, there's some nice ones out there. But anyone resorting to Google just to ask a simple question that came up while they were playing is doing a disservice to the game as a whole. They had an opportunity to enhance the game and they squandered it.

So please, ask your questions in chat. (The /shout channel is generally good for this.) You'll make someone's day giving them the chance to help you out with something.

[Kloe]

I agree with Niwashi. Also I don't think "just google it" should be considered a valid response to a question in game. You have to remember that some people play on PS4 and can't "just google it" all the time. I have a friend who has a ps4 and that is it. No PC, no laptop. If someone in game asks me a question, I myself will sometimes google things so that I can respond to them, but I do it because I can simply alt + tab to a web browser where the person asking the question may not be able to.

Also when you tell someone to google it instead of giving them a valid response, you're really just sending the message that "you're too lazy to give a good response so just go away". So by not helping someone and giving a rude response, all you are doing is breeding more jaded assholes for end game, thus making the problem worse. Be part of the solution and not the problem.