why so mean?

[Garlyle]

I guess I'll put it this way: I've run into a lot of players who didn't know what they were doing.

Some of them start off saying "I'm new in this dungeon" or even rarely I'll get into Sastasha and see "I've never done a dungeon before what am I doing". That is completely fine - that's asking for help, and I'm very happy to help explain class basics or dungeon mechanics or whatever's needed to people.

Then there's the people that don't say anything, or wait until things have gone wrong 2-3 times over from really basic mistakes and then go "screw you I'll play how I want" (if they say anything at all).

Honestly, if you let people know in-game that you are new to this stuff, most of them will be happy to help you. If you wait until after you're screwing it up people will be a little more irritable.

[redmoontabby]

i will admit to not telling others that im new anymore i dont know if i just have bad luck or what but whenever i would go into a dungeon and say im new they would kick me off the party first thing so it made me scared to tell anyone i dont know what im doing

[Silken]

When I am new to a dungeon, I tell my party right away. People tend to be more patient if they know I'm new from the beginning. Those who are not patient leave... so it's a win-win really.

[Hurlstone]

When I am new to a dungeon, I tell my party right away. People tend to be more patient if they know I'm new from the beginning. Those who are not patient leave... so it's a win-win really.

Same here. Everytime I do a new dungeon I mention that this is my first time. For my own experience, I have never had any problems. My fellow adventures have always been understanding, many going over the tactics even if I mentioned reading up about them. The in-game community has been great in my experience. Of course I do know that there are jerks out there, but my advice to the OP is to ignore them. Listen to those who do give advise, and practice your class. It can be intimidating to start a new MMO, let alone your first, but over time you will become more skilled and soon you will be the on being asked for advice from a new player.

2) Before you spam chat for answers, search yourself.

The problem with this is that searching out mean having to go to the wiki or youtube to find out what to do. Yes, it is not hard but should that really be how a game is played? This is one of my MMO pet peeves. What ever happened to the thrill of exploring a dungeon, working out the mechanics as a team and having fun? Why should it be a sign of weakness to show that you are experienced anyway? Players nowadays seem to have lost that sens of exploration and fun, with most just wanting to complete the stage as quick as possible. And no, I do not blame the Duty Finder. I saw such attitudes in WoW long before its DF was added.

[ckq53]

You'll get the d-bags now and again. Its just the nature of the beast. This is my first MMO as well and I rolled a gladiator too... Boy did I get a rude awakening! LOL!
I took advice no matter how rude it was, watched videos, and read like I was studying for a college exam! Ive come a long way since then.
What ive started doing is if someone
pops thier mouth off at another party member and gives them a bunch of grief like the OP stated I blacklist them. Theres plenty of more people to pair up with in the DF.
As a matter of fact in Revenants Toll today someone shouted how to start a quest cause they couldnt find the quest giver. The response: "go to system, click exit game, turn off computer and throw it on a 4 lane highway cause you dont need to be playing this game."
They were immediaty blacklisted. Why even say that. Of course the shouter with the question then said "you guys have fun in endgame, im out"

It just makes me really mad sometimes. Sorry for the rant.
/rant

[MikoMiy]

well welcome to the world of FF14... when i 1st started i had not friends that played this game and ws on my own, now i have played some MMO's but only for a a short time then i got board and moved on as i had no friends and no help.... i jumped into this one with the thought ill never pay to play (P2P) but once i got on and was learning i found some frendly people and a really good FC (free company ) that is all about helping there member, and they helped me get to lvl 50 in 3-4 weeks. they have tought me the lingo, and they have TS ( team speak a 3rd party voice chat system ) that helped out alot!!! as i am on a ps3..

now as far so the DF (duty finder) goes i have always made sure to let them know i was new, and if they started to be ugly i just ignored them and went on and go a free ride, but most of the time they helped me out, most they right befor a boss.

if you are having a hard time finding a good FC you can alwasy shout (type of chat) and ask if any one can invite you to a newbe LS (link shell) or when you have to do a dungon use the PF (party finder ) and mark it that your new and looking for friendly people to help you make it through.

if you ever find you self looking to change worlds or make a new person come on over to Goblin and i can help you out and get you in to my FC or one of my good friends ( a friend that i made in game!! ) and we can help you out!!
good luck in game!!!!

[CoyoteXIX]

Hey Welcome to FFXIV!

Yea there can be alot of dillholes online, or people without the patience to help others out. Though there is a fine line between helping and holding ones hand. We are on the same server so if you ever have any questions or are looking for a FC look me up I'd be glad to help you out with anything I can!

[Maero]

It is sad but the nature of it. I myself when i first begin was completely new to mmos but have always and will always treat players with respect except of course for some rage quitters.
Also i do agree that if you mention you are new to a dungeon and such that may help. When taking members of our FC to do end game stuff for instance, i always tell the random players that such and such is new.
Find a Free Company that is new player friendly, have fun and enjoy the game.

[Nyalia]

The problem is that the unkind people are much louder and more prone to speaking up than the kind ones. I've run into people with nasty attitudes in this game, but I've also run into plenty of helpful and patient people. A good tip is to find a friendly FC as others have said. I'm not familiar with your server, so I don't have any suggestions as to which ones are the best.

Often, mean people will speak up and be nasty to you if you're doing something in a way that they don't consider optimal, but many helpful players won't say anything unless asked. I mean, it's really not our place to tell someone in the early game how to play the game. That's what they're figuring out, and many people like doing that on their own. However, if you ask for advice, you'll find that many people are very willing to give it. Even some of the mean people, because some of them are like that first replier up there - only mean because they expect newer players to react nastily if given advice, because that does happen sometimes.

When you go into a Dungeon or Trial, you might want to tell people that you're new, or that it's the first time you've tried it, or that you've never healed/tanked a dungeon before. There are people who will react negatively to that, but there are more people who will explain the bosses to you, or give tips. When playing any online game these days, you have to learn to ignore the loud and obnoxious people because they're always there. This isn't unique to FFXIV nor to MMOs. It's just how things are on the internet these days, and frankly, how they've always been. Anonymity breeds pettiness and hostility in sufficiently immature people, of which there are plenty.

[Raeanya]

What would the world be like if all adults expected children and teenagers to know absolutely everything, and told them to just look up a wiki or google something for an hour without taking the time to teach them about life, love, or their job?

I think that for the most part people forget what it was like when they first started playing the game, either ARR or their first MMO. Just because you said something like "burn boss and kite adds" doesn't mean that the new player will understand what you mean, even if they had read something or watched a video. I try to do some research before a fight or dungeon, just so that I don't go in completely blind, but even with that and someone typing out instructions, it is hard when it hits the fan and everything is happening real time to remember everything. Last night I got into Garuda Ex for the first time. I knew the basic mechanics of the fight, but was so forcused on watching HP bars that I completely missed the spiny plume.

You can read, watch, and hear someone explain something until the cows come home, but until you actually do it yourself, and see how what you do affects the outcome, you will not be perfect. Once you've ran the dungeon a few times, you'll have no problem, because you'll know what comes next and where to stand/how to dodge/ what to attack.