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    Elite Hunt Mobs, and rendering (LOOK SE!)

    You fixed it for Odin
    You fixed it for Behemoth

    Please explain to me why you didn't put the same rendering priorities in for Elite Hunt marks.
    300 players in one place, 1 boss. Can't see the flippin boss most of the time, but I can sure see the 300 players.

    Why can't you learn from previous experience SE?

    WHY?
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    because it wasn't means to be done like this, maybe?

    the B rank was means to be solo monster, now they are for a small group (can be duo with chocobo)
    the A rank was means to be done by a small group, now it's a full group (it's still 8 people)
    the S rank was means to be done by multiple group, it's still the case, but frankly i'm kinda sure it's around 24 player...

    there you are.... more of 100.... you don't see the trouble?
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    Quote Originally Posted by silentwindfr View Post
    because it wasn't means to be done like this, maybe?

    the B rank was means to be solo monster, now they are for a small group (can be duo with chocobo)
    the A rank was means to be done by a small group, now it's a full group (it's still 8 people)
    the S rank was means to be done by multiple group, it's still the case, but frankly i'm kinda sure it's around 24 player...

    there you are.... more of 100.... you don't see the trouble?
    Your analysis doesn't address the problem.
    I appreciate your position on it, but it doesn't come close to the reality of it.

    SE shouldn't even need to fix this. It should have been done right from the start.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Damifino View Post
    Your analysis doesn't address the problem.
    I appreciate your position on it, but it doesn't come close to the reality of it.

    SE shouldn't even need to fix this. It should have been done right from the start.
    Why should it have been done from the start when it was not the INTENTION? SE didn't design Hunts with the intent of having 300+ people coming down on them at once, even for a B rank.

    While I agree that this is an issue, it doesn't mean that because us as a community decided to turn Hunts into something more than what SE anticipated means that they should have future sight and implement things that don't know about.
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    Quote Originally Posted by whoopeeragon View Post
    Why should it have been done from the start when it was not the INTENTION? SE didn't design Hunts with the intent of having 300+ people coming down on them at once, even for a B rank.

    While I agree that this is an issue, it doesn't mean that because us as a community decided to turn Hunts into something more than what SE anticipated means that they should have future sight and implement things that don't know about.

    It's pretty simple really. This is a redundant behavior from SE from Beta, through Release to now.
    "OMG we didn't think this would happen"

    It's time they started thinking it will
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    Quote Originally Posted by whoopeeragon View Post
    Why should it have been done from the start when it was not the INTENTION? SE didn't design Hunts with the intent of having 300+ people coming down on them at once, even for a B rank.

    While I agree that this is an issue, it doesn't mean that because us as a community decided to turn Hunts into something more than what SE anticipated means that they should have future sight and implement things that don't know about.
    I understand that point, but at the same time, SE should have known better. They should have learned by now. Whenever they add new content, people flock to it. Whenever they add awesome rewards, people flock to it. When they add new content with awesome rewards, people go bat %^%+ crazy for it. What vacuum are they living in that they didn't see this coming?
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    Quote Originally Posted by silentwindfr View Post
    because it wasn't means to be done like this, maybe?

    the B rank was means to be solo monster, now they are for a small group (can be duo with chocobo)
    the A rank was means to be done by a small group, now it's a full group (it's still 8 people)
    the S rank was means to be done by multiple group, it's still the case, but frankly i'm kinda sure it's around 24 player...

    there you are.... more of 100.... you don't see the trouble?
    SE knows how many people play on each server and would they expect a lot more then solo, 8 and 24 people to fight a NM. Especially if you are able to get top tier gear out of it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by silentwindfr View Post
    because it wasn't means to be done like this, maybe?

    the B rank was means to be solo monster, now they are for a small group (can be duo with chocobo)
    the A rank was means to be done by a small group, now it's a full group (it's still 8 people)
    the S rank was means to be done by multiple group, it's still the case, but frankly i'm kinda sure it's around 24 player...

    there you are.... more of 100.... you don't see the trouble?
    You are missing the point. No matter what, if there is a monster targetting you and executing abilities on you, it and his abilities should have rendering priority.
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    I have no idea how they DIDN'T expect this... put raid gear in open world and make it available through means that you must fight the rest of the server for? I mean really... It is literally the best way ingame to get gear now. Screw coil lockouts ;D
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    Quote Originally Posted by Altonfenri View Post
    I have no idea how they DIDN'T expect this... put raid gear in open world and make it available through means that you must fight the rest of the server for? I mean really... It is literally the best way ingame to get gear now. Screw coil lockouts ;D
    Yeah. I don't understand how they didn't expect this either.

    Maybe none of the staff have actually played MMOs before? By that I mean maybe they've never played one seriously and actually cared about/wanted loot themselves. Having someone there that understands might help smooth out new systems...
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