Atma Grind Needs Some Changes...

[Fendred]

I'm not sure who Yoshida is trying to get back at with this, but I don't think the vast majority of the player base needs to be caught in the cross-fire. I understand some of the people who are giving comments can be unfriendly, but taking it out on the gaming community in this way just isn't the best way to handle things.

Jokes aside, the grind is just too long, and it has proceeded to become longer because there are fewer and fewer people actually doing fates. Very few people actually have an animus weapon, and those that do are not particularly interested in having to redo the same long-winded process over again.

It might be best to simply replace the fate treadmill with a series of quests, a progress bar, or just greatly increase the drop chance. We will already have to spend 1500 mythology per book, so its not like you would be handing out ilvl 100 weapons for free.

[Riviere]

I wish Atmas would just start dropping from FATEs once you have the quest, even if you don't have a Zenith weapon equipped. I could be leveling other classes doing FATEs while at the same time having a chance to get an Atma, at least if I'm not lucky, I'd still be getting some XP.

[Zumi]

I wish Atmas would just start dropping from FATEs once you have the quest, even if you don't have a Zenith weapon equipped. I could be leveling other classes doing FATEs while at the same time having a chance to get an Atma, at least if I'm not lucky, I'd still be getting some XP.

How does this help at all if you already got all the jobs to 50 most Legacy players already had all the jobs to 50.

[Riviere]

How does this help at all if you already got all the jobs to 50 most Legacy players already had all the jobs to 50.

At no point did I say that would fix the Atma grind, I just said they would be better if they could be obtained even with low level classes.

[Souljacker]

How does this help at all if you already got all the jobs to 50 most Legacy players already had all the jobs to 50.

You aren't the only people playing the game you know. There's a LOT more non-legacy people than legacy people in case you didn't noticed. I'm not saying your plight should be ignored, but don't argue against a good suggestion just because you have spent the last two years doing nothing but leveling.

[Aldracity]

I wish Atmas would just start dropping from FATEs once you have the quest, even if you don't have a Zenith weapon equipped. I could be leveling other classes doing FATEs while at the same time having a chance to get an Atma, at least if I'm not lucky, I'd still be getting some XP.

Mostly this. I'm ok with running around in circles, spamming FATEs...but I'd like to get more out of the actual grindfest instead of just a pile of GC seals I can barely use.

Or, more specifically: The fatal problem with Atmas is that there is no sense of achievement whatsoever up until the Atma actually drops. I am literally wasting time, burning through Gil to keep up with equipment repair costs, and the FATEs themselves are even wasting your Challenge log because of the EXP bonuses!

The other steps are long, but at least there's a sense of progress there.

Of course, the other solutions could be to either make GC Seals more valuable during the endgame, or else generate a complete other currency/resource for that same purpose.

[Bucy]

Mostly this. I'm ok with running around in circles, spamming FATEs...but I'd like to get more out of the actual grindfest instead of just a pile of GC seals I can barely use.

Or, more specifically: The fatal problem with Atmas is that there is no sense of achievement whatsoever up until the Atma actually drops. I am literally wasting time, burning through Gil to keep up with equipment repair costs, and the FATEs themselves are even wasting your Challenge log because of the EXP bonuses!

The other steps are long, but at least there's a sense of progress there....

I think the devs want us to see how "fun" FATEs are, but in practice, grinding for atma, they are not fun. We run around trying to tag as many FATEs as possible. Maybe if there was a large bonus to atma drop rate for completing a FATE, then the FATE grind could be fun (like +25% or even higher for tough FATEs like Go Go Gogomeira or It's Not Lupus)

[Felis]

Mostly this. I'm ok with running around in circles, spamming FATEs...but I'd like to get more out of the actual grindfest instead of just a pile of GC seals I can barely use.

Or, more specifically: The fatal problem with Atmas is that there is no sense of achievement whatsoever up until the Atma actually drops. I am literally wasting time, burning through Gil to keep up with equipment repair costs

You can buy dark matter 5 with seals to reduce your repair cost to 0

and the FATEs themselves are even wasting your Challenge log because of the EXP bonuses!

Only if you do the one last FATE with a lv 50 job. There is a warning if the next FATE is the last FATE for the challenge log.

[Amelia_Pond_Behemoth]

Or, more specifically: The fatal problem with Atmas is that there is no sense of achievement whatsoever up until the Atma actually drops. I am literally wasting time, burning through Gil to keep up with equipment repair costs, and the FATEs themselves are even wasting your Challenge log because of the EXP bonuses!

You're doing it wrong. If I've used up 4/5 gold or 9/10 total FATEs on a level 50, I'll switch back to a low level for the bonus. You can even manipulate it to only having to do one fight instead of two.

[Bucy]

You're doing it wrong. If I've used up 4/5 gold or 9/10 total FATEs on a level 50, I'll switch back to a low level for the bonus. You can even manipulate it to only having to do one fight instead of two.

does that really work?! Can I do some of a Fate on a relic carrier, then switch to a low level job, finish the fate, get exp for my low level job, and still get atma?