The Novus Grind

[Ami_Kaede]

(I don't know if this is in the correct place, if it isn't i'm sure a moderator will move it)

So I started my Novus grind a week ago. Everything was going good just doing the daily to get the Alexanderite and just giving up 800 myth when I had it from doing the Roulette's. Until today, was doing a map that i had just given up 800 myth for only to die to a stupid one shot mechanic because i went as SCH and not DPS.

My thought was "Go as SCH, like I have been doing get Selene to Heal me and buff me and I'll DPS the mob, might take me down to the last 10 seconds but I'll do it." So off i went found my Treasure chest summoned the Enemy and got that Golem that summons the Bombs. I killed nearly all the bombs and then instadeath cause they blew up which i didn't know would happen cause I've not had that one before. So i re-spawned and said "Well ill just do it again" NOPE no I wont the map is lost forever because i died to some stupid instakill mechanic. So I essentially paid 800 myth to go and die and respawn again.

Why have a mechanic like that on something which is lost once dead?

I feel like the game is going down a route which every MMO goes down, Farm this X times to get this item to go here to farm this X times.

Why cant it be like the original Relic quest, You kill X monster and obtain a guaranteed item drop then your one step closer to your new relic.

Then you can either chose to have a better weapon or shield or upgrade your gear, Which will you chose.

But no, now its go farm 12 Atma which is RNG heavy, then go farm 1500 myth to then have to kill 100 random enemies, camp this fate, Which may or may not take a day for it to spawn ect. The Daily is good means you can get 1 map a day, but if you die then you lose it, which IMO is bad as what about players, Me, die because of some oneshot mechanic because of an unlucky turn of events.

~ Just 1 more Tick of DMG from Miasma II and I wouldn't have died.

[SavageWolf]

I like it!

More insta-kill mechanics!

[Gormogon]

Because artificial difficulty is the new rage in gaming.

[NintenPyjak64]

You can always find a few friends to help you out. The recommended # of people is 1 but that doesn't mean only 1 person can perform the map

Not going for Novus but I'm liking what I'm hearing about these maps, it's very interesting

[Roris]

You really should get a buddy to help you with maps and also help other buddies if you can, 2 people and just one choco are all you need for them. I agree though, relic quests need to be less repetitive grindy single steps and overall more steps that don't feature token RNG grinds. Gimme 20 or more unique steps with multiple 8 man party fights, some single dungeons runs and what not, a real journey to forge a weapon, now that's real long lasting content instead of a boring and lazily designed grind, regardless of which part of the playerbase that grind is aimed at.

[Mcshiggs]

If you want the kill X monster an item will drop, go kill primals or do coil, this is another option with a different approach. If you can't solo a map, either get people to help, or learn to pay attention and stay alive. There are options, just because you choose to ignore them, doesn't mean they aren't there.

[LunarEmerald]

If you set your home to the same zone then you can retry if you die. But the enemy's HP resets and the timer is still ticking.

[Welsper59]

I feel like the game is going down a route which every MMO goes down, Farm this X times to get this item to go here to farm this X times.

I have to ask, what exactly is your idea of an "MMORPG"? This is a core part of the genre, even going as far to say a core part of traditional RPGs in general. RPGs, even from the D&D board games era, all relied on what we now call RNG. It's a part of the genre itself that will never go away, similar to how being in first-person for an FPS will never go away. If you want guarantees (and to avoid the grind aspect entirely), RPGs are generally not your go-to genre... just saying.

The insta-kill mechanics are a bit underhanded, but that's sort of the gamble you take when doing things solo without prior knowledge. Again, this is an MMORPG, and no one should overlook the fact that there very well may be mechanics that promote group play, though solo may still be an option with great care. Especially when it's content related to obtaining an endgame item.

[silentwindfr]

The insta-kill mechanics are a bit underhanded, but that's sort of the gamble you take when doing things solo without prior knowledge. Again, this is an MMORPG, and no one should overlook the fact that there very well may be mechanics that promote group play, though solo may still be an option with great care. Especially when it's content related to obtaining an endgame item.

actually no, that the modern mmorpg, at the base the mmorpg is only something to do while chatting with friend. quest and such thing was add for add more depth to the activity... but that the point, in the modern mmorpg, the depth are not what they look for, but they try to give you something to do more and more and more and more and more. but it kill the first goal of a mmorpg... chat with people, the activity it's not the purpose of the game.

when was the last time you did talk with a stranger while doing this grind over and over and over and over? i think yoshida must not forget the part that talk of multiplayer, the fact to do a map at 2 is not a solution is barely enough.

the interaction with the other are reduce to nothing when you do this sort of mindless grind. it work for the asian population, because them society is ok with this. do that the case of the occidental, nope. they really need to rethink the content for add it replayability and fun! while still maintaining interaction with people.

[-Eri-]

Please ' Original Relic ' as i remember it that was back in the Old Version.
And that had harder Grinds. Also, the Quest didn't tell you to go alone?

Im mean i'm not for oneshot mechanics, i hate them.
However every boss battle with unforgiving mechanics is no fun to me.

But your not forced to go solo for the map or anything.