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    Oh snap, Rokien! How have you been?

    As for open world content, no, it's still an AoE spam, where it will continue to be so until they completely rework every class to not have those abilities. Only now, you can earn allied seals to buy good gear, so it makes it even more obnoxious how many people are doing it!
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    Quote Originally Posted by KiriA500 View Post
    Oh snap, Rokien! How have you been?

    As for open world content, no, it's still an AoE spam, where it will continue to be so until they completely rework every class to not have those abilities. Only now, you can earn allied seals to buy good gear, so it makes it even more obnoxious how many people are doing it!
    Are you forgetting they just added hunt NMs? Which is open world content that some FFXI players been asking for.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zumi View Post
    Are you forgetting they just added hunt NMs? Which is open world content that some FFXI players been asking for.
    Hunts are not what people wanted, unless I'm totally reading every single complaint on them wrong.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KiriA500 View Post
    Hunts are not what people wanted, unless I'm totally reading every single complaint on them wrong.
    Well, it sort of is. People wanted open world content, and well, this fits. People also wanted meaningful rewards from it, ie sands/oil in this case. They however didn't realize what would happen by asking for that. One of the fixes some have suggested is to make them like maps, ie force popped. That's not open world content. It just happens to be in the open world, the content itself is not open.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KiriA500 View Post
    Hunts are not what people wanted, unless I'm totally reading every single complaint on them wrong.
    You had open world NMs, which some people asked for. Put some of the best top tier gear on it in the form of oils and sands. Then are surprised when the whole server is hunting these down because they offer some of the best rewards in the game. You asked for open world content with good rewards and should expect a high level of competition on hunting them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zumi View Post
    You had open world NMs, which some people asked for. Put some of the best top tier gear on it in the form of oils and sands. Then are surprised when the whole server is hunting these down because they offer some of the best rewards in the game. You asked for open world content with good rewards and should expect a high level of competition on hunting them.
    Pretty sure that the people and I asked for NOTORIOUS monsters and not just push overs. Lets take a look at 1.0 for a second and its great buffalo. Not only did you have to gather a team for it but it also utilized crafters to make the best gear, unlike this game where crafters are no more than vanity. They actually help the good fight, but oh well
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    Quote Originally Posted by ErBear View Post
    Pretty sure that the people and I asked for NOTORIOUS monsters and not just push overs. Lets take a look at 1.0 for a second and its great buffalo. Not only did you have to gather a team for it but it also utilized crafters to make the best gear, unlike this game where crafters are no more than vanity. They actually help the good fight, but oh well
    they brought back NM's but they are nothing more than glorified unlabled fates, they arent the same in 1.0 were u had to actually use strategy to win. everyone can attack them an get credit for rewards so they jsut spam fests like fates
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    Quote Originally Posted by DoubleT View Post
    they brought back NM's but they are nothing more than glorified unlabled fates
    They need to bring back claimed monsters.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ErBear View Post
    Pretty sure that the people and I asked for NOTORIOUS monsters and not just push overs
    Fought Stinging Sophie this morning with ten people. Took multiple minutes to kill it. Anyone who's actually done hunting will tell you horror stories about the coeurl A-rank in Eastern Thanalan, or the Sabotender Ballerina and her 20,000 points of flat piercing damage AoE.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ErBear View Post
    Pretty sure that the people and I asked for NOTORIOUS monsters and not just push overs. Lets take a look at 1.0 for a second and its great buffalo. Not only did you have to gather a team for it but it also utilized crafters to make the best gear, unlike this game where crafters are no more than vanity.
    I agree that "NM's" are too weak still but only because at prime time 50-100 people are piling on, the S ranks for 4-8 man parties involving force pops wouldn't be a simple pushover unless your whole party is geared at ilvl 100-110.

    People would still spam them at 110 probably assuming that at some point SE will give myth etc. some conversion like Philo has.

    If your never going to stay currently subbed over crafters not making BiS gear then you never will, Yoshi is never going to do this, dungeon runs at 50 outside of storyline would become irrelevant and the game would probably need to have a major rework, they have already done that (1.0-2.0). Making crafters control BiS at endgame now would only turn the game into FF-Farming online, and you think the world is too small now.

    The silver lining of course would be that people might actually stop screaming at people who watch cutscenes but I wouldn't bet on it.

    Ilvl90 accessories are already BiS for the most part, and they are priced accordingly, that's probably as good as it's ever going to get for crafters.

    Much of the "fixes" that are asked for in this game would require replacing an expansion with an extensive rework that would most likely deliver about the same volume of content we have now, be that in 6 months or even as mentioned maybe a year that wont keep subs either, people outside of hardcore FF fans wont wait for a rework.
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    Last edited by Lamentations; 07-21-2014 at 06:47 PM.

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