Spirit Binding In Syrcus Tower Needs To Stop

[Exguard]

I love the responses of "its an easy raid" etc, yeah easy for you because people are carrying you to get your gear spiritbonded. Spiritbond on your own time or to the point its not hindering the raid and time of 23 other people.

[Jamez82]

I do spiritbonding but I only use accessories so it doesnt drop me to low to where I'm a liability. O.o

[RunaRugar]

How to Spiritbind in Instances Without Pissing Off Everyone and Their Mother

1. Only ever spiritbind Accessories in dungeons.
2. Never spiritbind Accessories that don't contain your main stat(ie. MNK binding Dex accessories. Don't do it).
3. If someone gets nervous and asks you to put your "actual" gear on, just do it.
4. Never use a set that is a lower iLvl than the dungeon requirement. That requirement is there for a reason.
5. Switch to your better gear for every boss fight.
6. Just to add to point number 2, never ever ever spiritbind gathering/crafting gear in a dungeon.

This, been going into CT with full i110 left side and turquoise accessories (mind) for a while, and the only comment, that I have received about my gear was "wow, stop being so "undergeared" for this"

[Nekodar]

Theres no way in hell that setup makes the minimum requirement. Besides he entered in high allagan coat and all 100 rings and rest i90s and 100s. He swapped just before we started the first boss. with his HP pool being at 2.8k and the mass AoE from the first boss, he couldn't stay alive causing a bunch of issues.

That was based on a cursory glance at the pic. A closer look shows that he could only reach around i70.
Change a little, he'd still be as useless but would meet entrance requirement.
However, if there was only one person like that in your party, you still shouldn't have ended up wiping if everyone else was doing their parts right.
And for cases like this, use vote kick for harassment.

In short, only enforcing minimum ilevel after entrance would not do anything to solve the problem. You'd have to start adding role based stat requirements and enforcement to solve it.

[indira]

whys it need to stop? if you can enter the raid means your good enough. im gonna start doing that no point wasting money on repairs when i can make pretty much all the armor you can craft atleast i can get some materia out of it.

you cant just kick someone for following the rules, if you do i hope you get whats coming from SE. quit using the DF if you wanna be the boss.

[Hiruke]

Or it could be admitted that maybe spiritbonding isn't the best system to introduce into a game and make materia (only) obtainable via other means.

Don't get me wrong, Syrcus Tower IS an an easy raid, and there's no way that a raid is wiping due to some guy spiritbonding (for the record, I don't spiritbond - not in dungeons, not anywhere - I hate spiritbonding), as it's all about addressing mechanics (which people are notoriously bad at in this game for some reason).

Ironic that dev team won't introduce arguably necessary elements such as dps meters so people can see how they're doing and improve - all on the grounds "it will incite conflict between players" - and then they create (and keep) a system in the game that ACTIVELY ENCOURAGES players to wear trash gear when playing with strangers, as if there's no way that would ever incite conflict with anyone.

[Lucke]

Why not just disable gear switching when inside?

[raelgun]

whys it need to stop? if you can enter the raid means your good enough. im gonna start doing that no point wasting money on repairs when i can make pretty much all the armor you can craft atleast i can get some materia out of it.

you cant just kick someone for following the rules, if you do i hope you get whats coming from SE. quit using the DF if you wanna be the boss.

read my post on top, SE has said we can kick these people with no ramifications as its part of battle strat.

[Nekodar]

whys it need to stop? if you can enter the raid means your good enough. im gonna start doing that no point wasting money on repairs when i can make pretty much all the armor you can craft atleast i can get some materia out of it.

you cant just kick someone for following the rules, if you do i hope you get whats coming from SE. quit using the DF if you wanna be the boss.

If you can meet dps requirements, etc. in that crafted gear and not cause any trouble to the party, fine.
If not, that's clearly intentional and is a form of harassment for which you can and hopefully would be kicked.

[raelgun]

If they still meet the item level requirements for the instance then who are you to tell people what gear they can't use. I don't see a problem it's an easy raid.

actually we can, its the groups right to point out a specific person is using for example crafting gear on a monk for example, its in our right to do so, and they should follow the groups wishes who are not only following the rules, actually doing the content properly.